Tony

Many thanks for the pitch!!

mvScan is a tool for building a database of the relations in a system,
parsing through source code, object code, dictionaries, paragraphs, PROCS,
menus etc. and above all designed to be flexible enough to allow customized
'add-in' parsers that can handle site-specific conventions: there is no use
in looking for OPEN statements, for example, if the site always uses a
standard file open subroutine in its place.

I wrote it as a tool for me to use in consulting work, and when this was
raised on the list last month I took a long hard look at the product and
realized that whilst it produces reams of useful information it isn't quite
as user-friendly as it should be.. So I'm putting together some ideas on how
to improve the usability, including generating a more graphical view of the
results. Currently it will export to HTML pages to create documentation that
will hyperlink through the various levels, but I think that having a chart
view would assist the product greatly. 

Right now I'm in the middle of releasing a new product - a cut-down version
of my PDF tools called 'mvPDF Lite' for the more budget-conscious consumer
<grin> - but as soon as that is out of the way I'll be giving my attention
to mvScan.

In the meantime, I've written a white paper on what the scanner produces for
anyone who is interested.

And yes, Tony, I'll be in touch!

Regards

Brian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony G
> Sent: 27 May 2009 06:48
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [U2] UV BASIC Flowing Charting Tools
> 
> Here is a link to Brian's product page:
> http://BrianLeach.co.uk/mvscan.htm 
> 
> I do not want to step on toes and attempt to create a 
> solution which duplicates one already provided by our 
> esteemed colleague Brian Leach.  If mvScan is not available, 
> or for some reason doesn't suit specific needs, I will offer 
> to try to put a graphical front-end on someone's existing 
> application parser.  I don't have the time to write that sort 
> of detailed and fragile back-end code but as I said earlier, 
> the graphical part
> (surprisingly?) shouldn't be that tough.  (Famous last words...)
> 
> I make no apologies about the fact that my business survives 
> when we get paid for writing software, so anything I come up 
> with will be sold at some price balanced by both investement 
> and demand.
> (It's a helluva world when I actually feel a need to explain 
> something like that in a professional forum, but here we 
> are.) If you object in principle to paying for software then 
> you can either do this on your own or wait (a year? forever?) 
> for someone to do it for you for free, but please don't hold 
> it against me for attempting to offer supply for demand 
> without losing my house in the process.
> 
> So I invite people to check out Brian's mvScan.  I invite 
> Brian, Norman, and John to contact me about collaboration 
> toward a new product with split revenues (thereby addressing 
> the bottom line issue which Norman's CEO mentions).  And I 
> invite anyone interested in a graphical flowchart (and 
> perhaps other visualizations of their MV data) to contact me 
> so that we have some idea of whether it will be worth it to 
> even do this.
> 
> Thanks for your time.
> Tony Gravagno
> Nebula Research and Development
> TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com
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> 
> > From: Norman Bauer
> > I would also love to use it. Brian has a program that 
> essentially does 
> > this, however in the economic times we are in now my CEO 
> told me "if 
> > it does not directly translaye into improveing the bottom 
> line I can 
> > not authorize it".
> > 
> > If I get time in the next year I may write something and 
> release it, 
> > but don't hold your breath.
>  
> > Charlie Noah wrote:
> > > I am sure I'm not the only one interested. Please do request 
> > > permission to release it. John Israel said he'd written 
> one, but it 
> > > must be internal to his company, too. I can't find any 
> reference to 
> > > it, or to Brian Leach's program on the internet. I would be 
> > > interested in seeing their software as well. Guys?
> > > Knowing how snarled and convoluted some of our legacy 
> programs are, 
> > > this would be extremely difficult software to design and 
> build, and 
> > > I applaud those who have done so.
> 
> > > Dan McGrath wrote:
> > > I have a tool I wrote here that does this for your entire source 
> > > repo.
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