D3 also has the notion of nailed telnet ports on windows & *nix
platforms .... on Linux at least this is achieved through xinet

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage > Better by Design!


>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:u2-users-
>[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor
>Sent: Friday, 24 July 2009 12:28 AM
>To: U2 Users List
>Subject: Re: [U2] Converting from mvBase to Universe
>
>Hmm,
>
>Does this suggest that the UV (or other database) telnet server will be
>listening on each of these non-standard ports ( the std telnet
listening
>port is 23?
>
>In UV, the telnet server port can be changed to any port no. other than
>23,
>but only to one other port no. afaik.  From that telnet port no., as
>Ross
>said, each user is assigned a PID on which to connect with UV.
>
>afaik, mvBase is the only mv database that supports more than one
telnet
>server port, and mvBase ties each telnet server port to one or more (a
>pool)
>of mvBase user connections, so this could be done on a onn-to-one basis
>in
>mvBase.
>
>hth,
>
>Dave
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ross Ferris" <[email protected]>
>To: "U2 Users List" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:21 AM
>Subject: Re: [U2] Converting from mvBase to Universe
>
>
>>A "nailed port" in this context means that someone initiating a telnet
>> (style) session to a non-standard port (lets say 5123) would ALWAYS
be
>> logged in as a fixed/known user number (say "user number 123"),
rather
>> than assigned a pseudo-random PID. By having your terminal emulator
>> setup to use a specific port, you get something akin to the days of
>> serial lines, where a wire from your terminal would always have you
>> coming in on a fixed "port" (or user) number.
>>
>> Using this, some people (the OP included I'm guessing) would activate
>> features based on this port number. "Back in the day" our tools were
>> used in a DOD project (SASPers) and some facilities were only
>available
>> from known/secured locations, as determined by a signal running along
>a
>> dedicated wire connecting the terminal device & the server.
>>
>> So, the "nailed telnet port" became a mechanism to keep some of these
>> facilities going.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ross Ferris
>> Stamina Software
>> Visage > Better by Design!
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected] [mailto:u2-users-
>>>[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
>>>Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2009 2:41 PM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [U2] Converting from mvBase to Universe
>>>
>>>Nailing ports on Windows is a critical issue.? IANA port rules
specify
>>>well-known and registered ports?ports should NOT be used without
>>>registration.? At a minimum, a good OS would leave them alone at
least
>>>for requests for "dynamic" or "random" port numbers.? However,
Windows
>>>will grab ANYTHING above 1024 (including all registered ports)?unless
>>>you reserve it in the registry first.
>>>
>>>One way to do it is to program Windows to just reserve all ports from
>>>say 1025 thru 49151 (or another range appropriate for your system).
>>>The Dynamic and/or Private Ports as specified by IANA are those from
>>>49152 through 65535.?
>>>
>>>To reserve ports on Windows, at least on 2003, the doc is here:
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812873/
>>>
>>>Hope that helps!
>>>
>>>Steve...
>>>--
>>>Steve Kneizys
>>>Author of TMI Open Architecture Listener (IANA port 8300)
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Don Robinson <[email protected]>
>>>To: U2 Users List <[email protected]>
>>>Cc: Curt Stewart <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2009 11:13 pm
>>>Subject: Re: [U2] Converting from mvBase to Universe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Curt,
>>>
>>>RE: "nailed" ports.
>>>
>>>After a lot of hair pulling, I solved this problem on Unix but I
don't
>>>know if
>>>it can be done on Windows and certainly not the same way.
>>>
>>>On Unix, UV uses a file named unohist but IIRC, on Windows, it uses
>the
>>>PID as
>>>the port #.
>>>
>>>I have a couple of ideas so contact me directly and I may be able to
>>>help you.
>>>
>>> Don Robinson
>>>[email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>From: Curt Stewart <[email protected]>
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:43:05 PM
>>>Subject: [U2] Converting from mvBase to Universe
>>>
>>>I have a client that is considering moving from an mvBase system to a
>>>Universe (Windows) system.  A lot of their processes are tied to
>>>specific
>>>ports and ranges.  Is there an easy solution in Universe to "nail"
the
>>>telnet ports for the users?
>>>
>>>Also, they use UREAD and UWRITE and take advantage of the MVClients
>>>ability
>>>to read and write to the local workstation, instead of the server
when
>>>not
>>>using MVClient.  I haven't heard of this separation being available
in
>>>Universe, other than using something like Accuterm, am I right? Or is
>>>there
>>>an easy way to distinguish between writing to the local drive vs. the
>>>server?  How has others handled this conversion issue?  Right now
>we're
>>>planning on assigning each user a directory on the server to write
to,
>>>does
>>>anyone have any alternate ideas?
>>>
>>>Thanks for the help, I appreciate hearing your solutions.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Curt
>>>TRI-SYS Consulting
>>>
>>>[email protected]
>>>
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