> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:u2-users- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Baker Hughes > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:09 PM > To: 'U2 Users List' > Cc: '[email protected]'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [U2] Better and Better Application - Launching todayFriday > 8/21/09 -- Browser instructions > > Thank you everyone for the intensely helpful insights offered so far in > this thread regarding the B&B rollout. > > Let me just say up front that I will take responsibility for an inadequate > QA process on this rollout. I thought (wrongly) that we had resolved any > browser compatibility issues we had, but we should have done more testing. > > We are working now to get the B&B application into a mode that is > compatible with a wide range of browsers. We will do better at testing > each one, and even different versions. (Please email me if you're willing > to help QA.) I can't express how thankful I am to have worked with a great > group of volunteers to get us to this point. This launch (albeit a bit > frustrating thus far) has been the [partial] culmination of the vision of > several people, as I said in the announcement. >
Hey Baker, Sign me up for some QA checks. You can drop an e-mail to me @work or @home with the details. I've got access to a bunch of different browsers. The only condition is that there can't be a tight deadline schedule for QA. I'm sure all of the volunteers work on things as they can and I'm no different. I will have to devote blocks of free time, which may disappear in the near future, in order to fully test things. > We are not done, and you will have a B&B application that you can enjoy, > and point to as a good example of multi-value technology. That is still > one of the primary goals of this project, and we thank you for holding us > to a high standard. > > There have been a wide range of emotions expressed in this thread. What > many don't know is the range of emotions and struggles that the B&B team > has experienced in the 2 or 3 years since inception. Because of the long > fight to get to this point, the B&B group made the decision to go ahead > with the launch, although we knew there was more work to be done to > improve the application. It has been a long wait and we felt the most > positive thing was to get the application available to the users. We > didn't anticipate the browser compatibility issues, but we did expect more > suggestions on the application itself. I still believe this was the right > decision, to go ahead and launch. > I understand the position and desire to provide (something). However, you don't open a new pub and only have canned beer in the house because that's the easiest to obtain. I think the audience here will be a lot more forgiving, though, than a horde of thirsty and tired people. > The net effect of the discussion about the B&B app is positive, because we > have actionable items as a result. This has also, I hope, pointed up the > need for more involvement from other users. 3 have already volunteered to > join B&B. We could use more, and other work groups on the U2UG could use > more. > If I had the spare time to devote to development I would, but I'll be spread thin already with QA. I also am working on other projects. Some of them are GPL and some aren't. I also try to write articles for Spectrum, but even that is hard to fit into my free time. > I want to thank each of you for the [at times lengthy and heated] posts on > the thread. I esteem each of you and consider many of you my seniors. > Your passion for the technology is in large part what is fueling the > success we are experiencing in the MV sector. Don't change. Thanks for > your patience as we shepherd this user group application to a satisfying > conclusion. > We are still chasing after the technology train that left over 2 hours ago. There has been some advancement, but in general this industry is still behind as usual. Being a visionary is too risky for a lot of companies, so technology is adopted after it has proven to be stable in the rest of the IT world. That provides a stable foundation for critical applications, but it also makes the applications look archaic. I hope that this project is a beginning step to the outcome many of us have wanted in the general industry. A common voice that says, "we have to have this because we need to move forward now, not in 5 years when the accountants deem it a returnable investment." I'm still interested in the developer's society, BTW, but I just don't have enough time to run it. If anyone wants the MVDC domain name I'll gladly transfer it for a non-profit setup similar to this. > Hope this helps, > -Baker Hughes > U2UG Board member (at large) > B&B Workgroup member > Regards, ---------------------------------------- Glen Batchelor IT Director All-Spec Industries phone: (910) 332-0424 fax: (910) 763-5664 E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.all-spec.com Blog: http://blog.all-spec.com ---------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list [email protected] http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
