What we are doing is not rocket science.  The age of the tech really
means nothing.  Technology doesn't appreciate with age like a savings
bond.



On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Dan McGrath <dmc...@imb.com.au> wrote:
> There are people who work on/drive cars much older than that. Yes, they
> still work, are functional and can sometimes look amazing. When it comes
> to utility though, they rarely match the total feature set available on
> the newer cars. Side & Passenger Airbags, smoother rides, 5 star safety
> ratings, air conditioning...
>
> Point being, just because something is old and still in use, doesn't
> mean it is the best solution either technically or productively wise. It
> can have its place, but not every place. Unless of course they continue
> to evolve it, not just keep it running.
>
> I love MV databases and the unique opportunities it presents. It also
> has its issues that have been solved for a long time in 'the newest
> fashion fad' for which the MV databases desperately need to catch up
> with. Well, that is if they really want to increase the
> development/market share of the product, as opposed to merely
> 'supporting' current ISV solutions just enough to stop people absolutely
> needing to migrate away.
>
> * If I had anything remotely as useful/polished as Visual Studio to
> develop my life would be bliss.
> **  Development toolset in general is severely lacking
> * Licence model is frustration+ if you stray away from Telnet sessions
> ** It's so open to interpretation its ridiculous
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jerry
> Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2011 2:09 PM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?
>
> There are people on this list that have been working with this database
> for 40 years or more, can you say that about the products you are so
> hyped up on. This database/environment/platform has outlived all other
> databases. It has outlived it's creators. It survives because it does
> what it is supposed to do. It was created to live and evolve. Long after
> the databases that you are extolling the virtues of have biten the dust
> it will continue. What you and many other people see is the glitz and
> glamor the newest fashion fad while the Plain Jane over in the corner
> does it's job. All hail Plain Jane.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 2/2/2011 12:58 PM, phil walker wrote:
>> Comments in line.
>>
>> There are know right or wrong answers here but I would rather not have
>
>> to rely completely on one technology platform, even Microsoft ...or
>> apple ;-) That was also a joke...
>>
>> So those of you who do not change or cannot get Rocket to change, good
>
>> luck with your future business.
>>
>> ...probably enough has been said down this path...
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
>>> boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of fft2...@aol.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2011 7:31 a.m.
>>> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>>> Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?
>>>
>>> Let's not forget here that the business user wants a solution.
>> [phil walker] That's right.
>>>
>>> If you can come in, with their solution, and no one else can, and
>> you're a
>>> good salesperson, and the price is right, you get the signature most
>> of the
>>> time.
>> [phil walker] Why not get it all of the time.
>>>
>>> The reason products like Shims took off is because there was
>>> literally
>> no
>>> competition in the marketplace they were addressing (small
>> manufacturing
>>> and distribution companies), and what competition there was, was five
>> times
>>> the price.  That was a complete solution.
>>>
>>> Companies who *already* have an infrastructure and personnel
>> investment
>>> in certain technologies, of course will desire to adhere to those.
>> But that is
>>> not a show stopper, just a big boulder in the path.
>> [phil walker] Rightly or wrongly it is a fairly big boulder. So why
>> not pick your battles.
>>> If you can show how much more fabulous your business solution is,
>>> than
>> the last guys, you can get
>>> companies to switch from PCs to Macs....  Ok that's a joke.
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