In fairness, I don't think anyone is trolling.  I think it's healthy to
question the technical merits of the platforms you use and compare them to
alternatives.

A community that shouts "go away trolls! we like it here!" whenever someone
asks an uneasy question is probably one I don't belong in.

I think we are asking fair, on-topic questions about the technology, its
future, and its usefulness compared to other systems that have entered the
market.  No one is belittling anyone else for using U2 or being a UniBasic
developer.  I've used the technology for many years.  I'm just not going to
be content with a platform that stagnates.  When I'm unhappy, I speak up.
:-)

-Rob

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Jeff Schasny <[email protected]> wrote:

> You were given many reasons and dismissed them all with nothing more than a
> shrug.
>
> Apparently, now you believe you've made your point. Good for you.
>
> Amazing as it may sound, on a list full of people who are U2 developers
> you're going to find people who use U2 because we're experts in it, and to
> us it's as easy as pie to develop in this environment. We use it with
> various front end tools to make it pretty like any other database
> environment. We also use a variety of other open source and proprietary
> tools when the situation calls for it.
>
> And now I believe I'll stop feeding the troll and go have some more coffee.
>
>
> Holt, Jake wrote:
>
>> U2 has an easy learning curve ..? What? MV is a completely foreign
>> concept to most people and I'd wager a large number of DBAs.  There is
>> no conceivable way that installing U2, setting up a database, developing
>> an application and presenting it using a technology that's not a
>> dinosaur can be considering easy in comparison to the majority of other
>> databases out there.
>> If you're happy with the current MV market then that's fine, but my
>> original intention in asking the question was to find out if there was
>> really any conceivable reason that NEW users would adopt U2 over another
>> option.  If people are happy to just watch it bleed and die that's fine,
>> but if you want the market to grow you're going to have to address some
>> of the issues already brought up.  Issues that many other databases
>> addressed a decade ago.
>>
>> Like I said initially, I like U2, I just have no conceivable reason to
>> use it outside our ERP system when I have a number of other options
>> available that are, frankly, better.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 
>> u2-users-bounces@listserver.**u2ug.org<[email protected]>
>> [mailto:u2-users-bounces@**listserver.u2ug.org<[email protected]>]
>> On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman
>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:30 AM
>> To: U2 Users List
>> Subject: [U2] Rocks
>>
>> Rob:
>>
>> This is the U2 list.  The developers on this list... like, live, and
>> breathe U2.  U2 is a legacy database for in which, over decades,
>> companies have invested in mega-mountains of code.  I find it galling
>> when newbies so often expect companies to instantly bail on their
>> colossal stake.
>>
>> Is U2 ever going to be cloud-based?  Maybe... maybe not.  Although U2 is
>> the UniVersal choice... for fresh new projects, designers may have good
>> reasons to opt for a rival technologies.  For add-on projects, U2 has an
>> easy learning curve.
>>
>> I hope that this explanation sheds some new light.
>>
>> --Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ?
>>
>> I have to heartily disagree that U2 has a sophisticated business rules
>> engine.  ...
>>
>> -Rob
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