I have been mildly trolling.  I'll stop.
On Jul 14, 2011 7:15 PM, "Rob Sobers" <[email protected]> wrote:
> In fairness, I don't think anyone is trolling. I think it's healthy to
> question the technical merits of the platforms you use and compare them to
> alternatives.
>
> A community that shouts "go away trolls! we like it here!" whenever
someone
> asks an uneasy question is probably one I don't belong in.
>
> I think we are asking fair, on-topic questions about the technology, its
> future, and its usefulness compared to other systems that have entered the
> market. No one is belittling anyone else for using U2 or being a UniBasic
> developer. I've used the technology for many years. I'm just not going to
> be content with a platform that stagnates. When I'm unhappy, I speak up.
> :-)
>
> -Rob
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Jeff Schasny <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You were given many reasons and dismissed them all with nothing more than
a
>> shrug.
>>
>> Apparently, now you believe you've made your point. Good for you.
>>
>> Amazing as it may sound, on a list full of people who are U2 developers
>> you're going to find people who use U2 because we're experts in it, and
to
>> us it's as easy as pie to develop in this environment. We use it with
>> various front end tools to make it pretty like any other database
>> environment. We also use a variety of other open source and proprietary
>> tools when the situation calls for it.
>>
>> And now I believe I'll stop feeding the troll and go have some more
coffee.
>>
>>
>> Holt, Jake wrote:
>>
>>> U2 has an easy learning curve ..? What? MV is a completely foreign
>>> concept to most people and I'd wager a large number of DBAs. There is
>>> no conceivable way that installing U2, setting up a database, developing
>>> an application and presenting it using a technology that's not a
>>> dinosaur can be considering easy in comparison to the majority of other
>>> databases out there.
>>> If you're happy with the current MV market then that's fine, but my
>>> original intention in asking the question was to find out if there was
>>> really any conceivable reason that NEW users would adopt U2 over another
>>> option. If people are happy to just watch it bleed and die that's fine,
>>> but if you want the market to grow you're going to have to address some
>>> of the issues already brought up. Issues that many other databases
>>> addressed a decade ago.
>>>
>>> Like I said initially, I like U2, I just have no conceivable reason to
>>> use it outside our ERP system when I have a number of other options
>>> available that are, frankly, better.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: u2-users-bounces@listserver.**u2ug.org<
[email protected]>
>>> [mailto:u2-users-bounces@**listserver.u2ug.org<
[email protected]>]
>>> On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:30 AM
>>> To: U2 Users List
>>> Subject: [U2] Rocks
>>>
>>> Rob:
>>>
>>> This is the U2 list. The developers on this list... like, live, and
>>> breathe U2. U2 is a legacy database for in which, over decades,
>>> companies have invested in mega-mountains of code. I find it galling
>>> when newbies so often expect companies to instantly bail on their
>>> colossal stake.
>>>
>>> Is U2 ever going to be cloud-based? Maybe... maybe not. Although U2 is
>>> the UniVersal choice... for fresh new projects, designers may have good
>>> reasons to opt for a rival technologies. For add-on projects, U2 has an
>>> easy learning curve.
>>>
>>> I hope that this explanation sheds some new light.
>>>
>>> --Bill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ?
>>>
>>> I have to heartily disagree that U2 has a sophisticated business rules
>>> engine. ...
>>>
>>> -Rob
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