Wow.  That's a dog who is not going to run.




"Setting Up a UniData Account
n order to access your files in U2 Data Vu, you need to properly set up 
our UniData account.  To do this you must add your account to the 
D.ACCOUNT file, use the CONVERT.SQL command to make your files SQL 
ompliant, and then grant appropriate privileges for access to the files."







-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Haskett <[email protected]>
To: U2 Users List <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 11:36 am
Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]


Steve:
Sorry, but I don't think that's right.  I remember getting excited and 
ownloading the product.  Then when I was reviewing the installation 
nstructions I seemed to run into a myriad of issues I'd have to 
vercome in development, let alone in production.
For instance, according to the Quick Start Guide:
Setting Up a UniData Account
n order to access your files in U2 Data Vu, you need to properly set up 
our UniData account.  To do this you must add your account to the 
D.ACCOUNT file, use the CONVERT.SQL command to make your files SQL 
ompliant, and then grant appropriate privileges for access to the files.
This isn't exactly pain free, nor anywhere as easy as Mits or Informer 
eemed to be (I could install and see my files and create a query and 
et a spreadsheet through a web browser in our Windows environment).  I 
ay just be the paradigm I was having problems with, but DataVu didn't 
eem either easy to install, configure, use, or put into production.
This doesn't mean I'm saying your wrong, or any such thing.  It's just 
hat the product looked a lot more complicated and difficult than other 
ptions I've been looking into.
Bill
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---- Original Message -----
From:* [email protected]
To:* U2 Users List <[email protected]>
Date:* 9/2/2011 10:14 AM
Subject:* Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
 On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Bill Haskett<[email protected]>  wrote:
> Steve:
>
> Really?  I was looking at DataVu for UniData and I understood that I did
> need to SQL'ize all my data.  So, if I hosted a number of accounts I'd have
> to go through the entire process of figuring how to duplicate the accounts
> for SQL file access, keep them all straight, and fight with all that this
> entails.
>
> Are you sure I misunderstood this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Haskett
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* [email protected]
> *To:* U2 Users List<[email protected]>
> *Date:* 9/2/2011 9:47 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM, John Thompson<[email protected]>
>>   wrote:
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> If my goal was to teach a fairly savvy computer user to get data out of
>>> U2
>>> into, lets say Excel... without the user coming to ask me to write some
>>> query for them...
>>>
>>> What would be the pros/cons of doing the ODBC way, vs. doing it the
>>> DataVu
>>> way?
>>>
>>> Forgive my ignorance... Does that make sense?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Daniel
>>> McGrath<[email protected]
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm not entirely sure on what you want here?
>>>>
>>>> DataVu (the free Query and paid Report&    Dashboard products) are
>>>> querying,
>>>> reporting and dashboard tools whereas ODBC is just an interface.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of John Thompson
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:36 AM
>>>> To: U2 Users List
>>>> Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
>>>>
>>>> Is there a comparison chart of DataVu vs. ODBC?
>>>>
>>>> I am planning on investigating both for reporting purposes, but, I was
>>>> just
>>>> curious if there was anything out there that listed the pros and cons of
>>>> both in a nice little table.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Daniel McGrath<
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Free as in free beer on the house.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just install and run. There is no need to authorize.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of John Thompson
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:20 AM
>>>>> To: U2 Users List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this a licensed product?  Or does it come with the U2 licenses we
>>>>> have purchased?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Daniel McGrath<
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Since DataVu Query recently came up here, I thought I should let you
>>>>>> all know we have just released a new version of the free DataVu
>>>>>> Query tool
>>>>>> (v2.0.1)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have introduced new capabilities to combine your queries and
>>>> results.
>>>>>>   You can filter and quickly create charts with just a couple of
>>>>>> clicks.
>>>>>> Also, a new quick start wizard guides you through the steps to
>>>>>> connect to your U2 data so you can quickly get up and running with
>>>>>> U2 DataVu Query. You can download this from our downloads page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget we have videos available on U2DevZone on the 'Accelerate'
>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan McGrath
>>>>>> U2 Product Manager
>>>>>> Rocket Software
>>>>>> Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> John Thompson
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>> The odbc way requires you to use VSG to normalize your U2 data.
>> DataVue does not.
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 On this page

 http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/u2/products/datavu/offer

 it states

 "No VSG Schemas for UniData or HS.ADMIN setup for UniVerse are
 required to access your U2 data. Click here to download this free tool
 together with its example database to get started using U2 DataVu
 Query."
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