Steady now - the comment was about mediawiki attracting link spammers.  Nothing 
'dangerous' about it, except for the google juice of the person hosting the 
site.

Perhaps we can move past the conversation about code collaboration being doomed 
to fail and have those who want to try give it a shot? The doubters can defer 
their schadenfreude until the *actual* failure :-)

Ian



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 -----Original Message-----
From:   Symeon Breen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent:   Monday, November 21, 2011 12:17 AM Pacific Standard Time
To:     'U2 Users List'
Subject:        Re: [U2] Code Collaboration

So you admit this is dangerous and yet you still publish some one else's
link ?

Remind me not to give you any of my email or link addresses




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: 19 November 2011 22:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration

http://nebula-rnd.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:AllPages

I hope you have some kind of spam control on the install It doesn't come
natively with one, as I've learned after 2 or 4 thousand vandalisms

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Gravagno <[email protected]>
To: u2-users <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Nov 19, 2011 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration


> From: Wjhonson
> It exists.... So that's two people who mention something without 
> giving any link TO it. Makes you wonder why no one visits it!!

Will, I'm reminded why I don't get into forum discussions with you - you
don't read information that's provided.  In the name of brevity here ("Never
invite Tony to give a one minute speech !") I had taken my forum posting and
moved it out to my blog.  In that blog I have a link to the wiki prototype.
With apologies, I didn't post the link here as I thought.  But if you had
visited the blog which I created specifically to respond to your points, you
would have found the MediaWiki prototype replacement for PickWiki.
removethisNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2011/11/mvcollaboration.htm
l


> But beating on the same drum, does github have email subscription 
> notifications of pages you are watching (but to which you have not 
> contributed) ?  If not, then it's the same old problem.  You have to 
> go to it, to even remember that it's there.

Response 1, I refer again to:
http://ilikestuffblog.com/2011/07/14/github-notifications-suck/
Response 2, see comment in my last note: Nothing is perfect. Join millions
of people who deal with that concept every day.
Response 3: (again) you can get notifications by other means.

> I disagree that people will not use a wiki to contribute code changes.

Disagree, but here's the change log showing activity over the last year:
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RecentChanges
Last month you yourself added a link to a page that doesn't exist.  (Thank
you for that valuable resource.)  Recent notes from people here, and the
log, confirm that almost no one ever contributes updates to existing code at
PickWiki.  There are notes on the wiki about how to use the site, and people
eager and easily available to help.  The site is just not used for
collaboration though it's available for anyone who wants it.  No, it's not
great, but Ian didn't originally intend it to be a collaboration site when
he created it ... it just became a defacto repository.  If we get
significant demand for improving the resource for real collaboration, a few
of us here will be eager to do it.

T

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