Very true. Upgrading from an earlier version of RD databases to D3 is a no-brainer. I just don't like their business policies and practices.
Ron White ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:12 AM Subject: Re: Alpha-Micro to D3 > Perhaps I've been buffered by the wrath of RD as i don't work with them > directly. I work with a company called Zumasys and they've been incredibly > helpful with the migrations and new systems that I've installed. > > I did go to bat with RD directly discussing a licensing issue and was able > to convince them of my perspective. It was regarding the 50% discount on D3 > for currently supported native systems. There was a loophole that i > identified and they accomodated me. They do play hardball on virtually > everything else. > > I have existing UV and UD clients, all of which had their environments > converted prior to my involvement. Thus, I've never experienced the birthing > pains of converting from native to U2. Observing all the conversations on > this forum regarding the release levels, implementations, connectivity etc, > and that I am an outside consultant and not an employee, a delivered virgin > D3 system on W2K is about as clean an environment one could expect to start > from. Pop in the last file-save, do the restore and compile. In fact, > converting from AP-pro doesn't even need the compiling. > > I observe all the unix and NT commands being offered and they're out of my > league. Plus, my clients, being native to begin with, aren't aching for the > ODBC, triggers, sockets, IIS and other magic features of today. They just > want to continue with their green screen apps. > > Thanks. > > Someone earlier posted a comparison between Pick and Microsoft. It stated > that MS is happy with 10% paying licenses out of 100,000,000 while Pick > wanted 100% paying licenses out of 10,000. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:22 AM > Subject: Re: Alpha-Micro to D3 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 12:39 PM > > Subject: Alpha-Micro to D3 > > > > > > Dear All: > > > > One of my clients has a 40 user Alpha Micro native system that's in need > of > > a migration. I want to migrate to D3/W2K. I've done a few and am > comfortable > > supporting it remotely as a consultant instead of as an employee. While I > > welcome the possibility of going to 'nix U2 or NT U2, I want to focus on > > D3/W2K. > > > > Has anyone had any experience converting from Alpha Micro to D3 or UD/UV > and > > are there any pitfalls regarding incompatible source code. I can expect > some > > slight differences in syntax but I'm looking to see if there's a major > > roadblock. I don't suspect anything beyond PQ proc but IIRC an earlier > > conversion from GA to AP-Pro brought with it some missing commands like > SWAP > > and MAX. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > > u2-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > --- > > > > D3 does have the SWAP statement, but like several other statements you > > need to but a $OPTIONS EXT compiler directive in your program or it > > will not compile. My documentation does not mention a MAX statement. > > > > I wish you luck dealing with Raining Data. At my earliest convenience I > > will kick D3 and Raining Data out the back door and run everything on > > UniVerse. RD has raised their maintenance to 90 USD per seat and have > > instituted a 50% charge to get a major release (release 8.0 is due out > this > > year). > > They have mostly stopped enhancing the product and to get anything fixed > or > > added to the product you must submit a "business requirements statement" > to > > them convincing them that it is in their business interest to provide the > > fix or > > function. That doesn't sound like a company that is very interested in > > keeping > > D3 around for the long haul. > > > > YMMV > > Ron White > > > > > > > > > > --- > > [ Eckel certifies this E-mail to be virus free. ] > > > > -- > > u2-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > --- > [ Eckel certifies this E-mail to be virus free. ] > > > --- [ Eckel certifies this E-mail to be virus free. ] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users