Very true.  Upgrading from an earlier version of RD databases
to D3 is a no-brainer.  I just don't like their business policies and
practices.

Ron White

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Alpha-Micro to D3


> Perhaps I've been buffered by the wrath of RD as i don't work with them
> directly. I work with a company called Zumasys and they've been incredibly
> helpful with the migrations and new systems that I've installed.
>
> I did go to bat with RD directly discussing a licensing issue and was able
> to convince them of my perspective. It was regarding the 50% discount on
D3
> for currently supported native systems. There was a loophole that i
> identified and they accomodated me. They do play hardball on virtually
> everything else.
>
> I have existing UV and UD clients, all of which had their environments
> converted prior to my involvement. Thus, I've never experienced the
birthing
> pains of converting from native to U2. Observing all the conversations on
> this forum regarding the release levels, implementations, connectivity
etc,
> and that I am an outside consultant and not an employee, a delivered
virgin
> D3 system on W2K is about as clean an environment one could expect to
start
> from. Pop in the last file-save, do the restore and compile. In fact,
> converting from AP-pro doesn't even need the compiling.
>
> I observe all the unix and NT commands being offered and they're out of my
> league. Plus, my clients, being native to begin with, aren't aching for
the
> ODBC, triggers, sockets, IIS and other magic features of today. They just
> want to continue with their green screen apps.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Someone earlier posted a comparison between Pick and Microsoft. It stated
> that MS is happy with 10% paying licenses out of 100,000,000 while Pick
> wanted 100% paying licenses out of 10,000.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Alpha-Micro to D3
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 12:39 PM
> > Subject: Alpha-Micro to D3
> >
> >
> > Dear All:
> >
> > One of my clients has a 40 user Alpha Micro native system that's in need
> of
> > a migration. I want to migrate to D3/W2K. I've done a few and am
> comfortable
> > supporting it remotely as a consultant instead of as an employee. While
I
> > welcome the possibility of going to 'nix U2 or NT U2, I want to focus on
> > D3/W2K.
> >
> > Has anyone had any experience converting from Alpha Micro to D3 or UD/UV
> and
> > are there any pitfalls regarding incompatible source code. I can expect
> some
> > slight differences in syntax but I'm looking to see if there's a major
> > roadblock. I don't suspect anything beyond PQ proc but IIRC an earlier
> > conversion from GA to AP-Pro brought with it some missing commands like
> SWAP
> > and MAX.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
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> > D3 does have the SWAP statement, but like several other statements you
> > need to but a $OPTIONS EXT compiler directive in your program or it
> > will not compile.  My documentation does not mention a MAX statement.
> >
> > I wish you luck dealing with Raining Data.  At my earliest convenience I
> > will kick D3 and Raining Data out the back door and run everything on
> > UniVerse.  RD has raised their maintenance to 90 USD per seat and have
> > instituted a 50% charge to get a major release (release 8.0 is due out
> this
> > year).
> > They have mostly stopped enhancing the product and to get anything fixed
> or
> > added to the product you must submit a "business requirements statement"
> to
> > them convincing them that it is in their business interest to provide
the
> > fix or
> > function.  That doesn't sound like a company that is very interested in
> > keeping
> > D3 around for the long haul.
> >
> > YMMV
> > Ron White
> >
> >
> >
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