I have noted with interest the high level of conversations that occur here and 
appreciate the
depth of knowledge contributed by those of you who are consultants, Guru's and Lovers 
of MV. 
I commend you all and thank you as well. 

Just want to share some experiences with you all. You may appreciate it. I have been 
associated with MV since the late 80's though not nearly at your levels. Advanced 
Revelation was the most recent version I was associated with. Though it did not always 
perform well due to quirks in Novel, Btrieve, Indexing, file structure, but to me it 
was the best thing going at the time. The application running on AREV I was associated 
with was called MAPCON and it supported the United States Antarctic Program which I 
was involved with for almost 4 years. (got to the South Pole twice). I was comfortable 
working with it and solved some pretty nasty problems in the program using it. (once I 
got them following the business rules built into the app) 

It appeared to me in the early nineties that MV database engines were not appreciated 
in general and that
my future was limited. The word was relational databases were surpassing MV Db's in 
the industry. You all 
obviously had the talent and sustainability to survive in the MV world, but I chose to 
jump over to the dark side.

I wound up consulting in the Nuclear Power industry, Telecommunications and even at HR 
Block doing a little data mining 
against data warehouses. Consulting projects evaporated for me and I tried something 
quite different for a while. I drove an 18 wheeler for 6 months, Long Haul. Now 
there's a job. Guys, moving 80,000 lbs down the road provides a totally different
kind of stress and a keen appreciation for the people that drive the big rigs. It 
didn't take long to bankrupt me, though, but the life experience was worth while.

At any rate, wonder of wonders, a little while after returning to Charleston SC, a 
position opened up at the local community college for which I interviewed. During the 
interview, they asked me if I had ever heard of VOC or Data Dictionaries. My jaw just 
about dropped. I chuckled and began talking about AREV. Well, you know how rare it is 
to find anyone that knows anything about MV, and even rarer still to find anyone 
actually USING a MV db. But, Datatel is high on it, and they have quite a client base. 
Yes, I got the job and am the Benefactor administrator here. They also have the Oracle 
version which rides below Unidata, with some wild conversion algorithms to make it 
happen. 

So what's the point of all this. I guess to share with others who will know and 
understand a bit of what one persons association with a particular db has meant to 
them during their life and to thank you for sharing your life experiences occasionally 
in this list.


James (Jim) Yeatrakas
Application Analyst
Trident Technical College, Charleston, SC
(843) 574-6634, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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