2009/6/29 Jono DiCarlo <[email protected]>:
>
> I'm pretty sure that Google not being suggested is because of the case-
> sensitivity bug.  (See 
> http://groups.google.com/group/ubiquity-firefox/browse_thread/thread/489b382eb420a265
> )
> We have a fix for this bug already, and it will be included in the
> final version of 0.5 to be released this week, so "g" or "go" will
> once again complete to "google".
>
> Timur, your suggestion about Ctrl-N and Ctrl-P is very interesting.
> You must be an Emacs user, right?

No, I'm a Vim user :) But I also use command line extensively and find
Ctrl-combinations very handy. Actually, incompatible navigation and
editing shortcuts in different kinds of applications (shells, input
fields in browsers and other GUI apps etc.) is a bit of problem for
me. I've been even thinking about making my own keymap where some
shortcuts can be used instead of arrow keys, Enter, Backspace etc.
Here's a very interesting blog post about this
http://duartes.org/gustavo/blog/post/home-row-computing

> I am to, and I often find myself
> trying to use ctrl-N and ctrl-P in other applications... I think we
> could consider adding those as an equivalent to the up-arrow /down-
> arrow keys; it would be a benefit for Emacs users and it wouldn't hurt
> anybody else.

As Christian noticed, these combinations are already used for new
window and print. I wonder if it's safe to redefine them when Ubiquity
is active.

> But back to the main question: there are definitely a few questionable
> rankings making it in to the suggestion list with the new parser.  We
> may have to tweak some of the weights of the various factors that go
> into sorting the suggestion list.  We should start a conversation
> about that over on [email protected].
>
> --Jono
>
> On Jun 28, 9:54 am, palousegeo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I've found the same situation on WinXP. I've had a bit more luck using
>> "s" (for search), but I miss doing "g tab" search term. When I tried
>> "Google", search wasn't even one of the options.
>>
>> -Rick
>>
>> On Jun 26, 11:48 pm, Timur Izhbulatov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > 2009/6/27 Brandon Pung <[email protected]>:
>>
>> > > So it sounds like there are two things you were asking about here. First 
>> > > is
>> > > that "goo" is returning "add to google calender" as the top suggestion
>> > > instead of the verb "Google (search term)", when you would expect "Google
>> > > (search term)" to be the top choice. Your second concern is that you 
>> > > can't
>> > > tab to cycle through the suggestions.
>>
>> > > For your first thing: I agree that "go" should have "Google (search 
>> > > term)"
>> > > as the top suggestion. It seems to be a problem with case sensitivity. If
>> > > you type "Go" then "Google (search term)" will be the top suggestion (at
>> > > least it is for me). In fact, even just "G" is giving "Google" as the top
>> > > choice, which is good. So we should make sure our matching to verbs is 
>> > > not
>> > > being done with case senstivity, because I don't think it should care 
>> > > about
>> > > the case of the letters here. Good catch!
>>
>> > Hm... I have "google" in the suggestions, not "Google".
>>
>> > Unfortunately, now I can't reproduce my issue with calendar reliably.
>> > However, there are some things that I noticed:
>> >   * the problem appeared right after update
>> >   * there was only one browser window with many tabs
>> >   * there problem disappeared in new window
>>
>> > I also tried unsubscribe/subscribe on the calendar command feed and
>> > restarting the browser, but it didn't help to reproduce the problem.
>>
>> > > For the second thing: We want to keep the behavior of tabs doing tab
>> > > completion, instead of cycling through suggestions. Arrow keys seems 
>> > > like an
>> > > intuitive way to go up and down between the different suggestions when 
>> > > the
>> > > tab key is being used for auto-complete. If that doesn't sound right 
>> > > we're
>> > > open to ideas.
>>
>> > Thanks for the explanation. Now I agree that tab completion and
>> > choosing from suggestions are different actions. I never had to cycle
>> > through suggestions before I stumbled upon this issue. The problem was
>> > that I got stuck at the top choice and completion didn't help to get
>> > out, plus, the list of suggestions was rather odd. However, I
>> > personally would prefer Ctrl+N/Ctrl+P instead of arrow keys.
>>
>> > So, I think the main issue is the list of suggestions, which seems
>> > rather confusing sometimes. For instance, when I type 'g', the 'get
>> > weather' is the top suggestion and Tab does not change anything, so
>> > that I have only what I already typed in the command line. But when I
>> > type 'ge', 'search with Ubuntu Package Search' (one of my search
>> > engines) is on the top and Tab changes my 'ge' to 'Ubuntu Package
>> > Search'.
>>
>> > > 2009/6/26 "mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine <[email protected]>
>>
>> > >> The tab completion is a feature we hope to keep, but unfortunately as
>> > >> you've discovered it is only functioning in limited circumstances
>> > >> right now. However, in my testing the tab completion of command names
>> > >> only should be working. If this is not the case for you, I'd love to
>> > >> know. If the first suggestion is not the right verb you want, you can
>> > >> arrow down to the righ verb and tab that one.
>>
>> > >> mitcho (Michael Yoshitaka Erlewine)
>>
>> > >> On Jun 26, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Timur Izhbulatov <[email protected]>
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>> > >> > Hi list,
>>
>> > >> > Recently I've updated to the latest 0.5 beta and noticed a very
>> > >> > significant change in the command completion.
>>
>> > >> > Previously, to start a Google search I would just invoke Ubiquity,
>> > >> > type 'goo' or even just 'go', then press Tab to complete the command,
>> > >> > enter the query and press Enter.
>>
>> > >> > But now, even when I've already typed 'goo', the first item in the
>> > >> > suggestions lists is 'add to google calendar' and I can't just press
>> > >> > Tab to cycle over suggestions and choose 'google'. I'm forced to use
>> > >> > arrow keys instead.
>>
>> > >> > In my opinion, this greatly reduces Ubiquity's usability and I would
>> > >> > like to know if there is a way to change this behaviour.
>>
>> > >> > Thanks,
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Timur Izhbulatov ―www.timka.org
>>
>> > > --
>> > > Brandon James Pung
>> > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology Class of 2010
>> > > Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
>> > > 828.777.8640 | [email protected]
>>
>> > --
>> > Timur Izhbulatov —www.timka.org
> >
>



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