I imagine unplugging/plugging the connectors multiple times will wear out
the surface, especially on cheap connectors. I used to use the dielectric
grease but stopped after comparing connectors that were installed for years
and noticed they we just a good as the "greased" ones. This holds true for
both my WISPs in Kentucky or Florida. As they say "YMMV"!

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Ahh.....   Found the reason / explanation of what is going on ...
>
> Here is an article with excellent read.
>
> http://www.rj45s.com/Gold_Plating_Problems.html
>
>
> I am in agreement, that using dielectric grease will/should protect in
> such cases.
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:41:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd things happening
> >
> > Very interesting... the AP's we have taken off, even near the water (in
> South
> > Florida) we have not seen this.
> >
> > Just for kicks, have you taken one of those ap's apart to see the
> corrosion
> > was on also present on the board ?
> >
> > I am curious as to what particular weather condition is causing this ?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> > 7266 SW 48 Street
> > Miami, FL 33155
> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> >
> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
> > > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:21:18 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd things happening
> > >
> > > We are in central Pennsylvania... every AP we've ever taken off a tower
> > > has green corroded Ethernet connections......  we aren't near the
> > > sea.... enough said :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Matt Hoppes
> > > Director of Information Technology
> > > Indigo Wireless
> > > +1 (570) 723-7312
> > >
> > > On 10/27/14, 5:07 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> > > > Hi Clay, Thanks for the explanation...
> > > >
> > > > So based on this,  the grease  would only be needed / functional at
> the
> > > >  'down side' of the cable run, on the radio side it is all behind the
> > > >  cover.
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------
> > > >
> > > > I am still having a hard time, visualizing the physical aspect of
> > > > this... let's say the cable jacket has a defect, and water is seeping
> > > > into it... the water will end up in the connector, before the grease
> and
> > > > still short out the cable
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Drip loops are supposed to protect you on the downward side from such
> > > > cable shorting....
> > > >
> > > > I can see the use / benefit of the grease in near salt water or
> marine
> > > > applications, but am having a hard time physically imagining how in a
> > > > normal WISP deployment it is actually creating some sort of
> protection.
> > > >
> > > > Regards.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Faisal Imtiaz
> > > > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> > > > 7266 SW 48 Street
> > > > Miami, FL 33155
> > > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> > > >
> > > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
> > > >
> > > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >     *From: *"Clay Stewart" <[email protected]>
> > > >     *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
> > > >     *Sent: *Monday, October 27, 2014 3:40:04 PM
> > > >     *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd things happening
> > > >
> > > >     Faisal, the grease keeps moisture out, completely, which is why
> car
> > > >     wire connectors have it. A single bird peck or wire pull scrape
> will
> > > >     allow water to transverse a wire for it's entire length...
> Ending up
> > > >     in cat5 end or even a POE or Surge.
> > > >
> > > >     On Sunday, October 26, 2014, Faisal Imtiaz <
> [email protected]
> > > >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         >>Perhaps now that we have the season of dew, fall, this
> could be
> > > >         >>more prevalent on broken or unseals cat5 ends. Suggest
> > > >         >>electrolytic grease... Advice I need to listen too myself!
> > > >
> > > >         I am going to assume we are talking about Ubiquity Radios,
> and
> > > >         we are talking about the ends that are going into the
> radio....
> > > >
> > > >         Since I am a visual learner, can anyone explain to me HOW is
> the
> > > >         moisture  getting into the connector ?
> > > >
> > > >         In all of the radios, the cable / connector is pretty well
> > > >         covered to stop them from getting wet....and the radios have
> > > >         weep holes to protect against humidity related moisture.
> > > >
> > > >         (If we are talking about cable/connectors connecting to other
> > > >         stuff, other than radios, then I can  understand potential
> issues
> > > >         )
> > > >
> > > >         While I don't have a disagreement over the use of
> die-electric
> > > >         grease, telco's have been using it for a very long time, they
> > > >         would even use it on in-door connections, I am asking the
> need
> > > >         for it ?
> > > >
> > > >         w
> > > >         Regards,
> > > >
> > > >         Faisal Imtiaz
> > > >         Snappy Internet & Telecom
> > > >         7266 SW 48 Street
> > > >         Miami, FL 33155
> > > >         Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> > > >
> > > >         Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
> > > >         [email protected]
> > > >
> > > >
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >             *From: *"Clay Stewart" <
> [email protected]
> > > >             <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','
> [email protected]');>>
> > > >             *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]
> > > >             <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','
> [email protected]');>>
> > > >             *Sent: *Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:30:27 AM
> > > >             *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd things happening
> > > >
> > > >             Only time this happened to us was due to moisture in
> cat5 or
> > > >             cat5 end. Green cable of course in past... But recently
> had
> > > >             a rocket M2 do this which was a scraped 140' tower tough
> > > >             cable carrier which the moisture traveled all the way
> down
> > > >             into cat5 end shorting out pins where it entered a surge
> > > >             protection.
> > > >
> > > >             Perhaps now that we have the season of dew, fall, this
> could
> > > >             be more prevalent on broken or unseals cat5 ends. Suggest
> > > >             electrolytic grease... Advice I need to listen too
> myself!
> > > >
> > > >             On Sunday, October 26, 2014, Mike Hammett
> > > >             <[email protected]
> > > >             <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','
> [email protected]');>>
> > > >             wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                 It came back shortly after I sent that e-mail.
> Nothing
> > > >                 in the Rocket's log to indicate WTF is going on. 80
> days
> > > >                 up time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                 -----
> > > >                 Mike Hammett
> > > >                 Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > > >                 http://www.ics-il.com
> > > >
> > > >                 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><
> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> > > >
> > > >
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >                 *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
> > > >                 *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
> > > >                 *Sent: *Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:51:12 PM
> > > >                 *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] Odd things happening
> > > >
> > > >                 Has anyone been seeing odd things happening with UBNT
> > > >                 radios? No bad weather in the area.
> > > >
> > > >                 I had a NanoBridge earlier this week just stop via
> > > >                 Ethernet (not sure on RF). Replaced the cable and
> PoE.
> > > >                 Nothing. Replace the radio. Fine. Plug the radio in
> at
> > > >                 the ground. Fine.
> > > >
> > > >                 I had a Rocket reset to defaults after "losing" its
> > > >                 Ethernet. When I got up top, the lights were
> blinking as
> > > >                 if it were in TFTP mode. I got it reprogrammed and
> it's
> > > >                 been fine since.
> > > >
> > > >                 I just had another Rocket lose its Ethernet tonight.
> > > >                 I'll see its fate in the AM. I'm attaching a log from
> > > >                 the router's point of view just to show the oddness.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                 -----
> > > >                 Mike Hammett
> > > >                 Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > > >                 http://www.ics-il.com
> > > >
> > > >                 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><
> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
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> > > >
> > > >             --
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> > > >             SCS Broadband
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