Perhaps in regions where dew is prominent in certain seasons, we at this time of year have 45-50 degree swings in temperatures every 24 hours. Condensation is always everywhere, like the tools in an enclosed van... every morning.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:17 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > I imagine unplugging/plugging the connectors multiple times will wear out > the surface, especially on cheap connectors. I used to use the dielectric > grease but stopped after comparing connectors that were installed for years > and noticed they we just a good as the "greased" ones. This holds true for > both my WISPs in Kentucky or Florida. As they say "YMMV"! > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Ahh..... Found the reason / explanation of what is going on ... >> >> Here is an article with excellent read. >> >> http://www.rj45s.com/Gold_Plating_Problems.html >> >> >> I am in agreement, that using dielectric grease will/should protect in >> such cases. >> >> >> Regards. >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> >> > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:41:34 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd things happening >> > >> > Very interesting... the AP's we have taken off, even near the water (in >> South >> > Florida) we have not seen this. >> > >> > Just for kicks, have you taken one of those ap's apart to see the >> corrosion >> > was on also present on the board ? >> > >> > I am curious as to what particular weather condition is causing this ? >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Faisal Imtiaz >> > Snappy Internet & Telecom >> > 7266 SW 48 Street >> > Miami, FL 33155 >> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> > >> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> >> > > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:21:18 AM >> > > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd things happening >> > > >> > > We are in central Pennsylvania... every AP we've ever taken off a >> tower >> > > has green corroded Ethernet connections...... we aren't near the >> > > sea.... enough said :) >> > > >> > > >> > > Matt Hoppes >> > > Director of Information Technology >> > > Indigo Wireless >> > > +1 (570) 723-7312 >> > > >> > > On 10/27/14, 5:07 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >> > > > Hi Clay, Thanks for the explanation... >> > > > >> > > > So based on this, the grease would only be needed / functional at >> the >> > > > 'down side' of the cable run, on the radio side it is all behind >> the >> > > > cover. >> > > > >> > > > ------------------------ >> > > > >> > > > I am still having a hard time, visualizing the physical aspect of >> > > > this... let's say the cable jacket has a defect, and water is >> seeping >> > > > into it... the water will end up in the connector, before the >> grease and >> > > > still short out the cable >> > > > >> > > > ------------------------ >> > > > >> > > > Drip loops are supposed to protect you on the downward side from >> such >> > > > cable shorting.... >> > > > >> > > > I can see the use / benefit of the grease in near salt water or >> marine >> > > > applications, but am having a hard time physically imagining how in >> a >> > > > normal WISP deployment it is actually creating some sort of >> protection. >> > > > >> > > > Regards. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Faisal Imtiaz >> > > > Snappy Internet & Telecom >> > > > 7266 SW 48 Street >> > > > Miami, FL 33155 >> > > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> > > > >> > > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: >> [email protected] >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > >> > > > *From: *"Clay Stewart" <[email protected]> >> > > > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >> > > > *Sent: *Monday, October 27, 2014 3:40:04 PM >> > > > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd things happening >> > > > >> > > > Faisal, the grease keeps moisture out, completely, which is why >> car >> > > > wire connectors have it. A single bird peck or wire pull scrape >> will >> > > > allow water to transverse a wire for it's entire length... >> Ending up >> > > > in cat5 end or even a POE or Surge. >> > > > >> > > > On Sunday, October 26, 2014, Faisal Imtiaz < >> [email protected] >> > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Perhaps now that we have the season of dew, fall, this >> could be >> > > > >>more prevalent on broken or unseals cat5 ends. Suggest >> > > > >>electrolytic grease... Advice I need to listen too myself! >> > > > >> > > > I am going to assume we are talking about Ubiquity Radios, >> and >> > > > we are talking about the ends that are going into the >> radio.... >> > > > >> > > > Since I am a visual learner, can anyone explain to me HOW >> is the >> > > > moisture getting into the connector ? >> > > > >> > > > In all of the radios, the cable / connector is pretty well >> > > > covered to stop them from getting wet....and the radios have >> > > > weep holes to protect against humidity related moisture. >> > > > >> > > > (If we are talking about cable/connectors connecting to >> other >> > > > stuff, other than radios, then I can understand potential >> issues >> > > > ) >> > > > >> > > > While I don't have a disagreement over the use of >> die-electric >> > > > grease, telco's have been using it for a very long time, >> they >> > > > would even use it on in-door connections, I am asking the >> need >> > > > for it ? >> > > > >> > > > w >> > > > Regards, >> > > > >> > > > Faisal Imtiaz >> > > > Snappy Internet & Telecom >> > > > 7266 SW 48 Street >> > > > Miami, FL 33155 >> > > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> > > > >> > > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > >> > > > *From: *"Clay Stewart" < >> [email protected] >> > > > <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',' >> [email protected]');>> >> > > > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected] >> > > > <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',' >> [email protected]');>> >> > > > *Sent: *Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:30:27 AM >> > > > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd things happening >> > > > >> > > > Only time this happened to us was due to moisture in >> cat5 or >> > > > cat5 end. Green cable of course in past... But recently >> had >> > > > a rocket M2 do this which was a scraped 140' tower tough >> > > > cable carrier which the moisture traveled all the way >> down >> > > > into cat5 end shorting out pins where it entered a surge >> > > > protection. >> > > > >> > > > Perhaps now that we have the season of dew, fall, this >> could >> > > > be more prevalent on broken or unseals cat5 ends. >> Suggest >> > > > electrolytic grease... Advice I need to listen too >> myself! >> > > > >> > > > On Sunday, October 26, 2014, Mike Hammett >> > > > <[email protected] >> > > > <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',' >> [email protected]');>> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > It came back shortly after I sent that e-mail. >> Nothing >> > > > in the Rocket's log to indicate WTF is going on. 80 >> days >> > > > up time. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- >> > > > Mike Hammett >> > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > > > http://www.ics-il.com >> > > > >> > > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< >> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< >> https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >> > > > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >> > > > *Sent: *Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:51:12 PM >> > > > *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] Odd things happening >> > > > >> > > > Has anyone been seeing odd things happening with >> UBNT >> > > > radios? No bad weather in the area. >> > > > >> > > > I had a NanoBridge earlier this week just stop via >> > > > Ethernet (not sure on RF). Replaced the cable and >> PoE. >> > > > Nothing. Replace the radio. Fine. Plug the radio in >> at >> > > > the ground. Fine. >> > > > >> > > > I had a Rocket reset to defaults after "losing" its >> > > > Ethernet. When I got up top, the lights were >> blinking as >> > > > if it were in TFTP mode. I got it reprogrammed and >> it's >> > > > been fine since. >> > > > >> > > > I just had another Rocket lose its Ethernet tonight. >> > > > I'll see its fate in the AM. I'm attaching a log >> from >> > > > the router's point of view just to show the oddness. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- >> > > > Mike Hammett >> > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > > > http://www.ics-il.com >> > > > >> > > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< >> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< >> https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Clay Stewart, CEO >> > > > SCS Broadband >> > > > 434.263.6363 O >> > > > 434.942.6510 C >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > “We Keep You Up and Running” >> > > > >> > > > Please send sales inquiries to [email protected] >> > > > <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',' >> [email protected]');> >> > > > Please send service/repair requests to >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',' >> [email protected]');> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > <JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',' >> [email protected]');> >> > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Clay Stewart, CEO >> > > > SCS Broadband >> > > > 434.263.6363 O >> > > > 434.942.6510 C >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > “We Keep You Up and Running” >> > > > >> > > > Please send sales inquiries to [email protected] >> > > > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > > > Please send service/repair requests to [email protected] >> > > > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > > -- > -RickG KyWiFi > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -- Clay Stewart, CEO SCS Broadband 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C [email protected] “We Keep You Up and Running” Please send sales inquiries to [email protected] Please send service/repair requests to [email protected]
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