There's just no way it will have all those features.  Not in 5 years.  Not
in 10.  They can't get the basic stuff done...

Josh Luthman
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On Dec 2, 2014 9:41 AM, "Daniel Peoples" <dpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Or it will be free upto 100 billing clients, with rates starting there.
> Admit it, if they would do your billing for .50/cx from 100-500 you would
> probably do it if it could do everything else that
> powercode/azotel/swiftfox could.
>
> *Daniel Peoples*
> Resonance Broadband
> *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com>
> 918-429-3620
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It'll probably be free like their other software, it's to sell their
>> hardware.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Dec 2, 2014 9:35 AM, "Kees H" <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  "But I don’t think we are going to stop this trend."
>>>
>>> Steve, you know the saying "The only thing necessary for the triumph of
>>> evil is that good men should do nothing."
>>>
>>>
>>> And "Follow the money trail"  We know UBNT is not in the business to
>>> give things away.  Hence if they can't make money of this cloud based app,
>>> it will soon go the way of the dodo.
>>>
>>> ”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com>
>>>
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:34 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
>>>
>>>  I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a
>>> cloud based management tool.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app
>>> and not having a web UI for our phones and other devices.  When Ben Moore
>>> said that we would not have to worry about that in the next version I kind
>>> of thought about a hosted solution, but thought “Oh surly not”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another point that I want to make is that US WISPs are not their largest
>>> market.  I am sure that it is a large market for them but not the largest.
>>> I expect they are trying to be uniform across all their platforms
>>> worldwide.  I assume we will see Unifi and Mfi eventually go ALL Cloud
>>> based. Everything from AP, CPE, Router, WiFi, Lights, Phones, Cameras, and
>>> even thermostat controlled from the cloud.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The hacking possibility of all this is huge.  But everything I see is
>>> moving this way.  The local school Corp in our area just released 2 techs
>>> and converted ever thing they could to virtual off-site with remote
>>> monitoring and control of all equipment from WiFi Aps and Net Switches to
>>> Servers and workstations.  The IT Manager says he loves the reduced work
>>> load but sees now he has handed the keys to someone else and has a lot less
>>> control.  All he does now is move wires and swap equipment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All the NEST products, personal IP Security Cameras all are already in
>>> the cloud. The general techy populous are starting to except it.  I think
>>> lots of WISPs will be less likely since they feel less in control of their
>>> networks and we are all about control. But I don’t think we are going to
>>> stop this trend.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
>>> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 10:37 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well right. That's why I said few and not none.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com>
>>> *To: *"ubnt users" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 9:36:33 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
>>>
>>> It was in alpha for 7-8 months before it hit the "public" beta today.
>>>
>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
>>>
>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>>>
>>> On 12/01/2014 06:25 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>>  It was announced today, so few are familiar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Robert Andrews" <nos...@avantwireless.com>
>>> <nos...@avantwireless.com>
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>> <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 9:22:29 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
>>>
>>> Ok, but when the device contacts the cloud why can't the cloud at that
>>> point start the update?   I'm not really familiar with the product but what
>>> is the frequency of the cloud to ground discharge ( or the other way around
>>> )...
>>>
>>>  On 12/1/14 7:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>>  The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection
>>> to the cloud.
>>>
>>> (to be fair)
>>>
>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
>>>
>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>>>
>>> On 12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>
>>> Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your
>>>
>>> management adoption for the investors, but nuts dead simple if they are
>>>
>>> on your cloud system...   And if the FCC changes the rules....   Guess
>>>
>>> what can be forced to update for compliance with or without your say so...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmmmmm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/1/14 4:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:
>>>
>>> Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my
>>>
>>> radios?  Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?
>>>
>>> But it's CLOUD.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~Seth
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