I just can't imagine this would be anywhere mature enough for anyone other
than a very small wisp to use. I'll keep powercode for now, thank you very
much.

It seems to take UBNT a few years to get things mostly working and then
they decide they suck at it and stop developing it and move on to something
else or start all over with the product again... it's very frustrating
really. I know stock price is number one they have to produce all this
crap.. but I wish they would have kept a laser focus on their wireless
product and a command and control platform to go with it. I know people say
they have separate teams working on all these different things and they
probably do. but why can't they seem to produce software that does what WE
want it to do? is that so hard?

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Daniel Peoples <[email protected]> wrote:

> Or it will be free upto 100 billing clients, with rates starting there.
> Admit it, if they would do your billing for .50/cx from 100-500 you would
> probably do it if it could do everything else that
> powercode/azotel/swiftfox could.
>
> *Daniel Peoples*
> Resonance Broadband
> *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com>
> 918-429-3620
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> It'll probably be free like their other software, it's to sell their
>> hardware.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Dec 2, 2014 9:35 AM, "Kees H" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  "But I don’t think we are going to stop this trend."
>>>
>>> Steve, you know the saying "The only thing necessary for the triumph of
>>> evil is that good men should do nothing."
>>>
>>>
>>> And "Follow the money trail"  We know UBNT is not in the business to
>>> give things away.  Hence if they can't make money of this cloud based app,
>>> it will soon go the way of the dodo.
>>>
>>> ”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Barnes <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:34 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
>>>
>>>  I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a
>>> cloud based management tool.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app
>>> and not having a web UI for our phones and other devices.  When Ben Moore
>>> said that we would not have to worry about that in the next version I kind
>>> of thought about a hosted solution, but thought “Oh surly not”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another point that I want to make is that US WISPs are not their largest
>>> market.  I am sure that it is a large market for them but not the largest.
>>> I expect they are trying to be uniform across all their platforms
>>> worldwide.  I assume we will see Unifi and Mfi eventually go ALL Cloud
>>> based. Everything from AP, CPE, Router, WiFi, Lights, Phones, Cameras, and
>>> even thermostat controlled from the cloud.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The hacking possibility of all this is huge.  But everything I see is
>>> moving this way.  The local school Corp in our area just released 2 techs
>>> and converted ever thing they could to virtual off-site with remote
>>> monitoring and control of all equipment from WiFi Aps and Net Switches to
>>> Servers and workstations.  The IT Manager says he loves the reduced work
>>> load but sees now he has handed the keys to someone else and has a lot less
>>> control.  All he does now is move wires and swap equipment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All the NEST products, personal IP Security Cameras all are already in
>>> the cloud. The general techy populous are starting to except it.  I think
>>> lots of WISPs will be less likely since they feel less in control of their
>>> networks and we are all about control. But I don’t think we are going to
>>> stop this trend.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 10:37 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well right. That's why I said few and not none.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 9:36:33 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
>>>
>>> It was in alpha for 7-8 months before it hit the "public" beta today.
>>>
>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
>>>
>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>>>
>>> On 12/01/2014 06:25 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>>  It was announced today, so few are familiar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Robert Andrews" <[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 9:22:29 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
>>>
>>> Ok, but when the device contacts the cloud why can't the cloud at that
>>> point start the update?   I'm not really familiar with the product but what
>>> is the frequency of the cloud to ground discharge ( or the other way around
>>> )...
>>>
>>>  On 12/1/14 7:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>>  The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection
>>> to the cloud.
>>>
>>> (to be fair)
>>>
>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
>>>
>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>>>
>>> On 12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>
>>> Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your
>>>
>>> management adoption for the investors, but nuts dead simple if they are
>>>
>>> on your cloud system...   And if the FCC changes the rules....   Guess
>>>
>>> what can be forced to update for compliance with or without your say so...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmmmmm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/1/14 4:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:
>>>
>>> Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my
>>>
>>> radios?  Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?
>>>
>>> But it's CLOUD.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~Seth
>>>
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