Yes, but we both know that the epmp doesn't support this, the 450 does. *Daniel Peoples* Resonance Broadband *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com> 918-429-3620
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > Cambium has CPE at $120 and APs at $500. Completely plausible to move over. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Daniel Peoples" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:42:38 AM > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a > great big poo stain. > > If it is a free to use tool like ac1 or ac2, it will have that initial > spert of awesome that will taper to nothing in a year or two. It will > eventually be stuck by the wayside, as there just isn't enough margin in a > $100 radio to support a tool like this. > Can Cambium or anyone else like them do this better? Sure, but they have > ap's that cost 10 times as much, and SM's that cost 4 to 5 times as much so > they can support these tools. > > If it is a paid(MRC) billing platform, it will more than likely mature > into something that is MUCH better than ac 1 or 2 , and something that > actually on the billing side approaches a real billing software and CPE > management system. > > All of this said, I run AC1 for management and swiftfox for billing, the > two programs both do exactly what I want from them, and that is ALL I want > them to do. If ubnt makes a product that does both functions and is around > the same price or even higher per cpe, then hoo rah, saves me complexity in > billing and management. > > As for the "cloud" side of this, yes it will always have more > vulnerabilities than my ac1 server that doesn't even know where the > internet is, but you have to put your billing system on the internet so > that it can process a CC, and don't forget that your azotel or your > powercode bmu sets IN the data stream. DDOS the box and your entire > internet connection dies, because they have you to route the information > through the hardware. > BUT at the same time, my new installer doesn't even know that ac1 exists > passed me showing him stat graphs, and he couldn't possibly hope to learn > how you tie all of that stuff together to make the solid picture that I do > when I look at all of the stuff together. > > > I honestly don't see what all the nay saying is about. If they do it > right, it will be a properly good tool, if they don't do it right, the > adoption numbers will tell them that they did wrong. > > *Daniel Peoples* > Resonance Broadband > *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com> > 918-429-3620 > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you UBNT for treating your customers like they are just a bunch of >> hobbyists. There are many of us trying to run a business and having the >> proper tools to do that is essential. For several years we have been >> told that Air Control is being active developed, we have programmers >> working on it, etc. >> >> I have ran a small WISP (1800+ UBNT devices) and if it wasn¹t for the few >> piece of AC that worked it would have been a nightmare upgrading firmware, >> and checking on the worst performing clients. Sure, we could have spent >> countless hours on writing scripts, integrating with 3rd party tools, but >> I shouldn¹t have to. If you give me a tool, make it work at one point. I >> can get that Beta software is, just that, Beta Software. Has anyone at >> UBNT actually tried to manage 2000 devices? Upgrading firmware, making >> changes, monitoring, etc. >> >> It¹s insulting that we spend good money. At one point, we were spending >> 20-30k a month buying UBNT products. I realize margins are thin, >> marketing, overhead, blah blah blah. But, if my folks spent less time >> monkeying with firmware upgrades and the like they could put on more >> customers. More customers means more revenue for UBNT. Not to mention >> the fact that I am sure there are operators out there who would PAY for a >> working AC. Why? Because it saves them labor! Saving labor means saving >> money! That¹s a benefit. There are reasons products like Observium and >> Nagios which have paid and free Versions. I would pay money if it meant I >> had less hassle. >> >> Cloud based for a network monitoring solution? Really? This is such a bad >> idea. How many years will this product be in Alpha or Beta? I installed >> the CMS from Cambium and guess what? It worked? Because it worked my >> client is now sold on Cambium. They see that its an integrated solution. >> Market toward the bean counters AND the geeks. Not just throw it out >> there. >> >> I know that¹s more than my .02 but dang. You missed the boat UBNT. >> >> Justin >> >> >> -- >> Justin Wilson <[email protected]> >> http://www.mtin.net <http://www.mtin.net/blog> >> Managed Services xISP Solutions Data Centers >> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com >> Podcast about xISP topics >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> Peering Transit Internet Exchange >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > >
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