We saw large performance gains  by replacing Rocket M5 with Rocket-AC-Prism.
Our network is 90+% M series radios. We are doing ALL new installations with 
PowerBeamAC and loving it.

YMMV,
JP

On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 12:42:33 -0700, tyson wrote
> This may be slightly off topic but only considering it because of peoples 
> input on good performance of mixed ap mode on newer rocket prisms with the 
> new firmwares.  We have lots of 5.8 sectors with almost all nano beam m5s 
> connected to them and have been wanting to migrate ac clients in the mix and 
> upgrade the rockets aps to ac rocket prisms aps but waiting to pull that 
> trigger until i saw some real world examples of mixed mode working well.  So 
> my question is if its lopsided and mostly just m5 beam clients and i migrate 
> to ac clients as needed will the ac prism rockets aps perform just as well or 
> better than our rocket ap m5s we currently have up? 
>  --------- Original Message ---------
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
> From: [email protected]
> Date: 12/22/16 2:17 pm
> To: "James Craig" <[email protected]>, "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> <[email protected]>
> 
> James
> is there anything I have to be worried about before upgrading my network 
> because I am still on 5.6.9 with powerbeams,nanostation,rocket m2/m5's.
> 
> On 2016-12-22 14:14, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote:
> > Hi Keith,
> > 
> > Sending you an email for more details.
> > 
> > Also, Were these stations mostly XM based stations that wouldn't
> > connect, or a mix?
> > 
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Keith Yoder <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> We updated about 1700 radios over the weekend. Yesterday afternoon
> >> we sent the APs back to 5.6.9 because our phones wouldn't stop
> >> ringing. Symptoms where bunches of CPEs not connected. A reboot of
> >> the AP usually fixed things but we can't be babysitting a hundred
> >> APs all day long.
> >> 
> >> We had been testing the beta versions from about b15 on and hadn't
> >> really noticed this problem. We went from RC2 to the release
> >> version. (we skipped RC3)
> >> 
> >> Keith Yoder
> >> 
> >> 2016-12-22 15:27 GMT-03:00 Steve D <[email protected]>:
> >> 
> >> Updating CPE first? Mike, you secretly started drinking the
> >> Ubuiquiti koolaid? You of all people are going to let them get away
> >> with shoddy QA? It's okay if new cpe are deployed one at a time are
> >> at or newer, but when doing a system wide upgrade, no f'n way. The
> >> damn things should be able to be newer or older and just connect and
> >> just work regardless.
> >> 
> >> A stone-cold reliable updating process should be number one on their
> >> list. I just updated some scabby old canopy network we acquired a
> >> couple weeks ago from versions 6-10 years old and it just worked, no
> >> BS. Did the AP first. Then brought up a handful of CPE. Then the
> >> whole works. We don't even have addresses for all these locations
> >> so really didn't want to truck roll. But I trust that update
> >> system.
> >> 
> >> A primary/secondary firmware loading system ought to get on their
> >> to-do list at the very least. If people can't trust the damn things
> >> to work without truck rolls, then people won't update firmware.
> >> Period.
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Mike Hammett
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I think the clients should always be at equal or greater version
> >> than the AP, regardless of the platform.
> >> 
> >> -----
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> 
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> >> [2] [3] [4] [5]
> >> 
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> >> 
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> >> [11] [12]
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> >> -------------------------
> >> 
> >> FROM: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]>
> >> TO: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
> >> SENT: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:08:38 PM
> >> 
> >> SUBJECT: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
> >> 
> >> I just test it with an XM Rocket 5M. All clients on beta 15. 41
> >> users online. After installation, 18 users came up. Went back to
> >> Beta, 41 users online again. I'm not sure if I have to make all the
> >> clients 6.0 first but I do know that this is exactly what we saw
> >> with RC3 and we had to go to a lot of houses to unload it when they
> >> wouldn't reconnect. We refer to that as hell week.
> >> 
> >> Rory
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Bright
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:08 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
> >> 
> >> On 12/20/2016 9:43 AM, Kevin Lamothe wrote:
> >>> My experiences so far:
> >>> 
> >>> 8.0 is stable
> >>> 
> >>> 6.0 is stable running on 5GHz only. 2.4GHz and 900MHz AP/cpes will
> >> 
> >>> randomly disconnect or goto sleep. Downgrading it back to 5.6.9
> >> fixed
> >>> it for us.
> >>> 
> >>> Ubiquiti is reviewing some support files I sent em.
> >> Remember kids: Just say no to dot-oh. :D
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