Coordination? Liz and only Liz. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

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From: "Chris Soiles" <[email protected]> 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:50:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Part 101 Spectrum Grab (was 4096 QAM) 


I agree with the spectrum grab, my problem is the cost of frequency 
coordination, what is everyone doing for coord? 


Doing it yourself? 
Any hardware vendors absorbing some of it, making it affordable? 
Any kind of subscription type consultants, x$ per month and you get x number of 
assistance to spread out the expense? 


Sent from iPhone 6S Plus 



Chris Soiles 

Owner 

Rio Cities 
[email protected] 
505-966-6389 

On Apr 13, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Mimbres Communications < [email protected] > 
wrote: 





Waking up a bit late here as well, and we're *seriously* rural (second least 
populated county in the sixth least populated state in the nation). The power 
company and the mine both have all manner of dual-pol 40 MHz links on 6 GHz and 
11 GHz running hither and yon. 400+ mbits full duplex to a substation? Sure, 
why not? 



AF-11FX at 56 MHz just meets the 101.147 efficiency requirements for an 80 MHz 
channel at 256 QAM. Engineer your links at 1024 QAM and you can probably secure 
the channel. Upgrade that to 4096 QAM on the full 80 MHz in a few years and 
you're golden. 


The rules are probably due for a re-work at some point. The traffic loading 
requirements are ripe for a legal challenge and I suspect somebody's likely to 
pull that lever in the next few years. 





On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] > 
wrote: 

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"Conserve Spectrum" .... 
"Waste of Resources".... 
"Spectrum Efficiency"..... 

Where are you folks living ? Dream Land ? ...... 

When are going to wake up and realize that the battle is purely about spectrum 
grab..... 

My advice to you all newbies.... get the biggest chunk of 11ghz spectrum 
channels you can get and put up the radios that you can afford that will chew 
up the whole channel.... you can always get a better radio in the future (or 
when you can afford it).. but very surely you may not be so lucky in finding 
extra spectrum when you need it in the future.... 

Doing anything less, is very likely to endanger your future business well 
being..... 

Can me whatever you like........ 
But take it from someone who is waking up to this rather late.... i.e. 
virtually impossible to find 6ghz paths, virtually impossible to find 11ghz 
paths, and 18ghz are going fast too... BTW, we are in Rain Zone N.... which 
means only 11ghz & 6ghz are practical for any reasonable distance... 

(BTW in our area, no 3.65, no CBRS, sprint is sitting on 2.5....ahhh !...but we 
can use 24Ghz & 60Ghz & EBand !!!!! ) 


..... you think your industry peers are going to play nice with conserving 
spectrum ' !!! Think again... 
e.g. http://about.att.com/story/att_to_acquire_straight_path.html 
Follow the bigger story starting with the FCC & Straight Path ... 




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Kurt Albershardt  |  Mimbres Communications, LLC  |  575-342-0042 
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