David, I agree with your points which is why I jumped on this discussion. Rather than answer your individual questions I can tell you that basically I do nothing for my 900 subs - it's "take it or leave it". However, I'm focusing my resources towards LOS customers where the better ROI is and letting the NON-LOS go to satellite. That said, I'm all ears on the Cambium but the question is: Does it really fix all the issues you mention? Thanks!
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:29 AM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> wrote: > Rick, > > I believe that most of us have been there where quality takes a back seat > to cost. However there is much more cost that comes with going cheap over > quality. > > What about support calls for slow speed? > What about truck rolls for slow speed? > What about calls for netflix, hulu, youtube, twitch, ect. not working or > buffering? Everyone knows the Internet is for TV replacement.--- Sadly this > is becoming less and less sarcastic every day. > What about the lost customers who get fed up with your slow service and > complain to their neighbors? > What do you do if you get more than 15 people in a 10 mile radius > interested in the service? > What do you do when a customer wants to pay you $80 for more than 5mbps > service to stream more than one device? > What about the time explaining that they can't get faster service like > their friend that is on your service down the road? > > All these problems and costs are already covered with the 450i > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:39 PM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote: > >> This is why the lord made insurance. ;) >> >> JP >> *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:24:52 -0400, RickG wrote* >> > Perhaps but my customers are not willing to pay ten times for the >> service! And while I've done everything possible to mitigate lightning and >> power surges one blown 450i will ruin a budget! >> > >> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Travis Allen < >> tra...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: >> > >>> >>> >>> > Cambium 900 450 is ten times better than ubiquiti! >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> > On May 30, 2018, at 17:12, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> > The best price I can find is well over $2500. That's 10 times the cost >>> of a UBNT Rocket 900. >>> > >>> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >>> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > [UTF-8?]It’s not too bad. We have one up, might put up a second >>>> one. >>>> > >>>> > Rory >>>> > >>>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> *On >>>> Behalf Of *RickG >>>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:58 PM >>>> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>>> > >>>> > Josh Luthman >>>> > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> > 1100 Wayne St >>>> > Suite 1337 >>>> > Troy, OH 45373 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions >>>> will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >>>> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >>>> enough time to recover investment and make something. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, not >>>> even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding >>>> which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market >>>> where possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. >>>> Hell, we still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart < >>>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work in >>>> foliage areas. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions < >>>> r...@thpi.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life >>>> experience input. >>>> > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >>>> > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >>>> > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >>>> > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one mile >>>> away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about 80 to >>>> 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? >>>> > Thank you in advance for your reply. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Ralf > Gulf Wireless Inc.* >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > -RickG >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > -RickG >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> > >>> > >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> > -- >> > >> > -RickG >> >> >> Joe Portman >> Alamo Broadband Inc. >> www.alamobroadband.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > David Jones > NGL Connection > 307-288-5491 ext 702 > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG
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