I agree, as much as I like dark themes, there are just too many kinks to work out. I do like the idea of packaging an aditional dark theme with hardy though. It would be a good base to build from if we wanted to make a dark theme default in hardy+1
Corey On Nov 7, 2007 1:50 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07/11/2007, Matthew Nuzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 7, 2007 12:14 AM, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > > > Another problem with dark themes is a purely technical one. I've done > > > a > > > handful dark themes myself, but they always end up with small glitches > > > here and there because not all apps are designed to respect the theme > > > 100% This makes for a bit of an amateurish feel in the long run. That > > > is > > > not acceptable for Hardy. > > > > > > I always seem to find myself in agreement with Mikkel's observations > > > and conclusions. > > > > > > > One thing we may want to consider is quickly getting a dark theme in > > place in Hardy so that by Alpha 1, which is released November 29th, we can > > start getting bug reports on these problems. > > > > This could be as simple as including the ubuntu-studio theme, or it > > could be more advanced. I think the key is to get something in soon. Core > > devs are *already* running hardy, and in large part, they (not us) will need > > to help identify and communicate these problems to upstream. > > > > I can personally attest that a dark theme can be usable and very > > attractive. It is challenging to achieve a balance and to get your > > applications working and looking good. The beauty of a dark theme is it > > draws your eyes to your work, which will have a lighter color, and in a way > > relegates the controls and chrome to a less prominent positions without > > actually putting them in an unusual or unexpected place. > > > This is exactly my problem with dark themes - the contrast between the > surroundings and the document I edit is too big. My eyes get sore after a > few hours. > > For hacking in GEdit this is not a big problem because I can have a dark > theme there too, but for OpenOffice I just *need* that white backgound. It > is silly to have a wysiwyg editor where there colors are not what other > people will see. > > An additional challenge with this type of functional art is to not be too > > clever. It still needs to be functional. > > > > Hmm... that might be a cool name for the new theme: functional-art. > > > On top of my previous points I simply do not believe that we can smooth > out the rough edges (non-theme-compliant-apps) on a dark theme in 6 months. > Hardy should be enterprise level and we cannot achieve that on a dark theme > in that time frame. Fixing the apps require real developers, not just > themers, and we are really short on those. > > > Please not that I really do like dark themes. Maybe we should just bundle > a dark version of the final theme. > > > Cheers, > Mikkel > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > >
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