As an example of the problems faced. Open up the GIMP or Inkscape in a dark theme. You may notice some of the tool icons become difficult to identify, particularly in Inkscape.
tonic On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 14:14 -0500, Corey Woodworth wrote: > I agree, as much as I like dark themes, there are just too many kinks > to work out. I do like the idea of packaging an aditional dark theme > with hardy though. It would be a good base to build from if we wanted > to make a dark theme default in hardy+1 > > Corey > > On Nov 7, 2007 1:50 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07/11/2007, Matthew Nuzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 12:14 AM, Troy James Sobotka > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > Another problem with dark themes is a purely > technical one. I've done a > handful dark themes myself, but they always > end up with small glitches > here and there because not all apps are > designed to respect the theme > 100% This makes for a bit of an amateurish > feel in the long run. That is > not acceptable for Hardy. > > I always seem to find myself in agreement with > Mikkel's observations > and conclusions. > > One thing we may want to consider is quickly getting a > dark theme in place in Hardy so that by Alpha 1, which > is released November 29th, we can start getting bug > reports on these problems. > > This could be as simple as including the ubuntu-studio > theme, or it could be more advanced. I think the key > is to get something in soon. Core devs are *already* > running hardy, and in large part, they (not us) will > need to help identify and communicate these problems > to upstream. > > I can personally attest that a dark theme can be > usable and very attractive. It is challenging to > achieve a balance and to get your applications working > and looking good. The beauty of a dark theme is it > draws your eyes to your work, which will have a > lighter color, and in a way relegates the controls and > chrome to a less prominent positions without actually > putting them in an unusual or unexpected place. > > This is exactly my problem with dark themes - the contrast > between the surroundings and the document I edit is too big. > My eyes get sore after a few hours. > > For hacking in GEdit this is not a big problem because I can > have a dark theme there too, but for OpenOffice I just *need* > that white backgound. It is silly to have a wysiwyg editor > where there colors are not what other people will see. > > > An additional challenge with this type of functional > art is to not be too clever. It still needs to be > functional. > > Hmm... that might be a cool name for the new theme: > functional-art. > > On top of my previous points I simply do not believe that we > can smooth out the rough edges (non-theme-compliant-apps) on a > dark theme in 6 months. Hardy should be enterprise level and > we cannot achieve that on a dark theme in that time frame. > Fixing the apps require real developers, not just themers, and > we are really short on those. > > > > Please not that I really do like dark themes. Maybe we should > just bundle a dark version of the final theme. > > > Cheers, > Mikkel > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
