On 07/11/2007, Matthew Nuzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 7, 2007 12:14 AM, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > > Another problem with dark themes is a purely technical one. I've done a > > handful dark themes myself, but they always end up with small glitches > > here and there because not all apps are designed to respect the theme > > 100% This makes for a bit of an amateurish feel in the long run. That is > > not acceptable for Hardy. > > > > I always seem to find myself in agreement with Mikkel's observations > > and conclusions. > > > > One thing we may want to consider is quickly getting a dark theme in place > in Hardy so that by Alpha 1, which is released November 29th, we can start > getting bug reports on these problems. > > This could be as simple as including the ubuntu-studio theme, or it could > be more advanced. I think the key is to get something in soon. Core devs are > *already* running hardy, and in large part, they (not us) will need to help > identify and communicate these problems to upstream. > > I can personally attest that a dark theme can be usable and very > attractive. It is challenging to achieve a balance and to get your > applications working and looking good. The beauty of a dark theme is it > draws your eyes to your work, which will have a lighter color, and in a way > relegates the controls and chrome to a less prominent positions without > actually putting them in an unusual or unexpected place.
This is exactly my problem with dark themes - the contrast between the surroundings and the document I edit is too big. My eyes get sore after a few hours. For hacking in GEdit this is not a big problem because I can have a dark theme there too, but for OpenOffice I just *need* that white backgound. It is silly to have a wysiwyg editor where there colors are not what other people will see. An additional challenge with this type of functional art is to not be too > clever. It still needs to be functional. > > Hmm... that might be a cool name for the new theme: functional-art. On top of my previous points I simply do not believe that we can smooth out the rough edges (non-theme-compliant-apps) on a dark theme in 6 months. Hardy should be enterprise level and we cannot achieve that on a dark theme in that time frame. Fixing the apps require real developers, not just themers, and we are really short on those. Please not that I really do like dark themes. Maybe we should just bundle a dark version of the final theme. Cheers, Mikkel
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