@mac_v: I really don't know how to respond in a way that you will take seriously. It's clear from the past rejections that you don't take my input seriously and aren't willing or able to check the facts for yourself. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for three months when I thought you were wrong about this issue being in Karmic (comment 3), until I could verify this for myself. I expected that I would get the same benefit of the doubt, or at least be given the opportunity for a dialogue. That didn't happen.
Apparently mac_v knows best. In the latest installment, 1) mac_v says "This is not a system-wide problem." Huh? As I have indicated before, this affects both Software Center and Add/Remove Programs, and has persisted across installs of both Jaunty and Karmic. I also indicated that this affects not just mountmanager, but many other applications as well (comment 6). It also affects Xubuntu in addition to Ubuntu*. I have no idea what your definition of "system-wide" is but it seems like the above would be more than enough for most reasonable people to consider system-wide. 2) mac_v says "This isnt even an app-wide problem." I don't even know what this means. In any case, the link you have pointed me at twice (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut) makes no mention of this as a criterion. 3) mac_v says "This is a bug in 1 particular app and in 1 specific app listed in the app out of the 1000's of apps listed!" Not true. Because you weren't able to take me at my word, I went to the trouble today of making a list. I didn't include what I consider near- matches, and I may have missed a few, but here it is: -Back In Time -Chess -Content Filter -GDebi Package Installer -Gnu Octave -Hardware Drivers -Image Viewer -KImageMapEditor -KLinkStatus -KOffice -KPlato -KPresenter -Krita -KSpread -KWord -KXSLDbg -Language Support -Licq -Mailody -Mines -MountManager -PCP Charts -Qalculate! (3 copies) -System Monitor -Terminal -USB Startup Disk Creator -Xabacus I count 27. 27 > 1. 4) mac_v says "The chances of this affecting the user is quite less. This is not something which is going to greatly improve/impact the usability of the OS in general." So, suppose there are 1000 apps listed. Then the average rate at which these duplicates occur is 2.7%. If the average user only randomly looks at (conservatively) 20 apps in Software Center over the course of their usage of Ubuntu, the chance that they are affected is 1-(1-0.027)^20 = 42%. That's for any one arbitrary user looking at 20 random apps! If the average user looks at 30 apps, the percentage increases to 1-(1-0.027)^30=56%. Impact? Was that a criterion for Papercuts? I don't see it in the link you gave. In fact, if it required a big impact, wouldn't that make it more than just a papercut? A laceration, maybe? In any case, this seems to be up there on par with ugly misspellings and inconsistent naming conventions, which seem to already have been accepted for previous papercuts projects. And, as I've mentioned previously, I'm not the only one who's noticed the problem. Surely you're not suggesting that this isn't confusing to new users? So, there we are mac_v. Now you know where I stand. Reject it again. I dare you. Then I can say "Screw you Ubuntu" and really mean it. I'm sure you can come up with some new excuse; I'm rooting for ya. You wouldn't really be a good gatekeeper if you actually read the bug and considered it objectively, would you? You didn't really want me to contribute to Ubuntu either, did you? Because that's just annoying, when all these people keep finding problems and telling you about them, and expecting you to read what they've written before making a snap judgment. It's much easier to shoot first and ask questions later. Yeah, keep doing that. That's working. I'm almost wetting my pants with enthusiasm to sign up. * I'll let this one slide, since I hadn't mentioned it. ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Software Center (and Add/Remove Applications) have duplicate listings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/355389 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
