Hello, On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 05:14:46PM +1030, Jason Warner wrote: > Hi Everyone - > > Thank you all for sending feedback[1][2][3] on the default music player for > 12.04. It is clear the right decision for 12.04 is to make Rhythmbox the > default music player. Thank you, above all else, for keeping the > conversation cordial and making the decision about what is best for Ubuntu.
Sorry, but it doesn't seem 'clear' to me. Please explain more. More constructive would have been sound technicals argument that could have been presented to upstream. Things they would have been able to work on. What is 'clear' though is that the default application selection process should not work like this. I would like to see us learn lessons from this situation so that our upstreams and users are treated with greater respect. Most importantly, we need to be having more constant and constructive dialogs with upstreams throughout the whole cycle and not just at application selection time (actually in this case there has been very poor communcation with upstream even since the discussion). Using the promise of being on or threat of being removed from the install to cudgel projects into the direction you want is not very satisfactory. Chopping-and-changing doesn't do people any favours either. There should be some commitment from Ubuntu; being the default app brings upstreams a lot of users (which is great), but also increases the support and bug workload (which is not so great). If Ubuntu could be relied on more then upstreams would not be so burdened. PiTiVi was treated in a similar way a few months ago. It is sad that no lessons were learned from that situation. Please do not let it happen again. None of this should have come out of a UDS session. If there are such serious issues then they should have been raised months ago. > > [1] - > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/banshee-tomboy-and-mono-dropped-from-ubuntu-12-04-cd/ > [2] - > http://news.softpedia.com/news/Do-You-Want-Rhythmbox-or-Banshee-in-Ubuntu-12-04-233449.shtml I don't think we should be relying on news media (especially hilariously biased articles like the second) to be making decisions like this for us. > […] Cheers, -- Iain Lane [ i...@orangesquash.org.uk ] Debian Developer [ la...@debian.org ] Ubuntu Developer [ la...@ubuntu.com ] PhD student [ i...@cs.nott.ac.uk ]
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