On Dec 13, 2007 1:58 AM, Martin Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > F-Spot and gThumb are very similar in capabilities on local images. > > Though F-Spot's interface is a little cleaner. But the big difference > > comes in Web2.0 integration. GThumb has none, while F-Spot integrates > > with Flickr, Picasa, etc. Hands down, this is what end users expect, > > and it is gThumbs that needs to be eliminated. > > Users who want any of these applications can get them from the > repositories; just because you like the applications doesn't make them > good for inclusion by default. The argument seems to be that we should > sacrifice 60MB of CD space for a handful of extra features. The space > instead could be used to have many more user friendly features than > just nice sticky notes and Flicker intergration. >
This is one of the reason why Linux in general only appeal to geeks, and why Windows is still the primary OS of choice for non-geeks. Tomboy and F-Spot are two most useful and innovative Linux applications in the desktop, removing them will give non-geeks no reason to switch to Linux. This move is headed in a backward direction, and will not provide any solution to solve bug #1, piracy, poor software quality and many other proprietary-model related problems. Mono, is a direct invitation for Microsoft Windows developers to jump in the Linux development scene, to provide more innovations, solutions and man-power. > > As for Tomboy vs GNOME sticky notes, this one is even more obvious. > > Sticky notes needs to go away. GNOME no longer considers it part of the > > base suite of packages, and has instead worked with Tomboy on tighter > > and tighter integration. Tomboy can fire links to open on your browser > > or Nautulus, fire alarms as reminders, and integrates with Evolution. > > Sticky notes does none of that. > > Notes are not a core application, I haven't the faintest idea why we > include any notes app at all. Some people may find them useful but > they can quite easily install this extra application. > > > I realize the original argument was about the size of Mono. And that is > > a legitimate argument. But lets also realize functionality and > > integration needs to be maximized in order to make this distro easy for > > the noobs it is aimed at. We already have a distro out there that makes > > sacrifices of number of packages over space... its called DSL. > > I think some of these arguments are a little biased; I feel like some > of the developers are championing Mono as a principle rather than on > technical merits. It's nice that they've invested all this time into > learning CLI; But we shouldn't let our ego's run away with us. Mono is > big, too big in fact to be reasonably included by default without > being biased. > > I'll be happy to see a small light weight notes and photo application > for inclusion. But at the moment these don't exist and we shouldn't be > looking for these tiny features when we could be including much better > things on the CD. > > Regards, Martin Owens > -- Computer Science Honours and Scholar Student Cisco Certified Network Associate Microsoft Certified Professional Mayers-Briggs Personality Type: INFP GTK+, C, Perl, Python, Ruby, XML, XMLHTTPRequest, XHTML, JavaScript, POSIX Bash (Dash) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
