On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 02:43:40AM +0000, Seth Arnold wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 10:37:07AM -0500, Dan Streetman wrote: > > In any case, all this formality really is exhausting and I don't care > > to pursue it, since you seem to be saying that I can't call for a DMB
> I've been having this thought a lot the last few years. > A lot of the Ubuntu structures feel like they may have had a place in the > early days, when there were thousands of enthusiasts all contributing at > once and trying to coordinate how they were going to do all that. > Now it feels like we've got the ossified remains of a lot of committees > and teams and boards and I just don't know how much of it is still > relevant to the Ubuntu of today. Every piece serves a role so it's not > like I can just point to any one specific thing and say we ought to scrap > it, but I remember watching what felt like dozens of DMB meetings where > not enough members showed up, not enough members voted, and the poor > applicants could go weeks or months (or more?) without an answer. > That kills enthusiasm. > I'm sorry that I don't have a solution to recommend but I think I'd like > to suggest that we try stepping back from bureaucracy when opportunities > arise. There was a time a few years ago, when DMB absenteeism was at an absolute high and the Technical Board didn't seem to have much to do, that I had the thought that it might be a good idea to roll the DMB responsibilities back up into the TB directly. Circumstances have changed since then on both the DMB and TB side, and I no longer feel like this is a good solution. I agree that when our boards are not operating effectively, that is a serious frustration for members of our community. The functions of these particular boards, however, are not something that we can dispense with since they're about fundamental technical governance of the project and how we onboard new members. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer https://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org
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