On 03/05/14 02:31, Paul wrote: > The version error I agree is not a big thing. I only discovered it when > I was trying to discover why the gnome-network-manager that worked (yes > I tested it) on the beta and release candidates of gnome 14.04 worked > but on the released version don't. Actually there is a long list of > things that worked on candidates of genome 14.04 but don't in the full > release. What I find most is that the bugs that are confirmed and marked > as high priority affecting multiple users have no developer assigned to > look at them after 2 weeks. Complaining about generic bugs on a mailing list is not going to help anyone, atleast provide specific examples *with* launchpad links! It is fairly normal for some bugs to slip through release, especially when the last few weeks of the release cycle is spent stabilising the images and installer. > > Given that gnome 13.10 updates end in the next few weeks it does cause > some concern. 13.10 support will end around the time 14.04.1 is released, if you are really worried about stability then just wait for that before upgrading! > > On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 01:25 +1000, Martin Kelly wrote: >> Hey, >> The PPA your talking about isn't just solely Ubuntu GNOME's >> developers. It is a general ppa for all Ubuntu based OS's. It is the >> upstream repository they (Ubuntu GNOME) use before including it in the >> mainline repository. This means it is maintained independently of >> Ubuntu GNOME. So the bugs you are referring too are inherent from >> GNOME developers not the developers here. >> >> Aside from the version error, which I don't see as that big of a deal. >> >> Regards, >> Martin >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> From:Paul >> Sent:3/05/2014 12:12 AM >> To:[email protected] >> Cc:ubuntu-gnome >> Subject:Re: ubuntu-gnome14.04 >> >> >> Thanks for your reply >> >> The big question is how did so many major bugs appear in the final >> release that were not present in the beta testing releases ? >> >> I accept the point about nothing being perfect and I would not expect >> that. The point I was trying to make was this. Bugs that have been >> marked high priority have no developers assigned in 3.10 the release >> version of gnome yet we get gnome 3.12 in the staging ppa and >> developers >> working on that. >> >> So just simple question is the priority getting the bugs fixed in the >> new release or moving on to the next release ? >> >> >> >> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 17:00 +0400, Ali/amjjawad wrote: >>> Hi and thanks for your reply but please make sure to hit Reply To >> All >>> so that everyone read your email as this is a mailing list not an >>> communication between two people only :) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Paul <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> Obviously not. But I did notice that it was added 2 days >> after >>> I >>> downloaded 14.04 !!. >>> >>> >>> We don't release any version unless we finish the release notes and >>> publish that at the same time we publish the announcement :) >>> >>> >>> This is the release notes: >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME >>> >>> >>> This is the known bug: >>> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1299912 >>> >>> It has been reported in: >>> 2014-03-30 >>> >>> >>> Why we couldn't fix it on time before the release? >>> >>> We couldn't for many reasons that I will leave it to the developers >>> and/or packaging team to comment on :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I do appreciate that a lot of work went into 14.04 but I >> must >>> say that >>> there is a awful lot of bugs in it. Two weeks on from the >>> release still >>> a lot of the network-manager addons are not working to >> mention >>> just one. >>> >>> >>> 1- Nothing is prefect :) >>> >>> 2- Expecting something to work perfectly is a story and 'getting >>> involved' and 'do' something to help Ubuntu GNOME and deal with a >>> 'huge burden' is something totally different and another story. >>> >>> 3- Lack of manpower + tight Ubuntu Schedule is another story. >>> >>> >>> That said, you can't really expect something to work with zero bugs. >>> That is just not logical and will never happen. There will be always >>> bugs ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> Maybe my understanding of an LTS release is wrong but I >>> understood this >>> was aimed at the enterprise. Hence the release date being in >>> the middle >>> of the Redhat/CentOS conference. >>> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS >>> >>> >>> I think when you review the 14.04 LTS release you need to >> ask >>> who your >>> target user is because quite clearly being in the middle and >>> trying to >>> satisfy both solid and stable as well as bleeding edge is >> not >>> working. >>> >>> "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying >> to >>> please everybody." >>> >>> >>> This is what I personally believe in :) >>> >>> >>> We know nothing is perfect. We know there are some mistakes and >> bugs. >>> We haven't said Ubuntu GNOME is No.1 as there is no such thing as >>> No.1 .. however, we haven't given up and with the so limited >> manpower, >>> we got the LTS Status: >>> >>> http://ubuntugnome.org/lts-status/ >>> >>> >>> IMHO, that was our huge achievement despite all the bad and down >>> things we have. >>> >>> And, as always, we promise to do our best and learn from the past >> for >>> a better future :) >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you for your feedback, we highly appreciate that :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 16:09 +0400, Ali/amjjawad wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Paul >>> <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > Has anyone else noticed that if you go into >>> > settings->details->overview >>> > it report ubuntu 13.10. >>> > >>> > The system was a clean install of gnome 14.04 from >>> the install >>> > DVD have >>> > attached the source.list and cant see anything >>> wrong. >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > Kindly have a read at: >>> > >>> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-April/001897.html >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Anyone else get the same thing >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> > >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thank you! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Best Regards, >>> > >>> > amjjawad >>> > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage >>> > >>> > Join Ubuntu GNOME >>> > >>> > Test Ubuntu GNOME >>> > >>> > Contact Ubuntu GNOME >>> > >>> > Download Ubuntu GNOME >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> amjjawad >>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >>> >>> >>> >>> Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage >>> >>> Join Ubuntu GNOME >>> >>> Test Ubuntu GNOME >>> >>> Contact Ubuntu GNOME >>> >>> Download Ubuntu GNOME >> >> >> > >
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