Due to the international nature of the group, I also think a meeting is
somewhat unfeasible for 100% attendance.

I am about 90% done with a rough draft of a proposal to the council which
covers the three main topics (focus on materials and collaboration,
core-marketers, Canonical liasion) which I will post once I have something
readable but certainly before the meeting.  Barring any vehement opposition
to the proposal, I will submit it thereafter.

I've also begun listing out the various roles that I envision would be a
part of this type of restructure, and I hope that those actively
contributing to the list now would be willing to step up and assume
ownership of one of these.

As Alan said, much of what needs to be said in a discussion has been said.
Its time for actionable objectives and realizing our goals.

My time is -6 GMT, Central Daylight, United States of America

Thanks,
John
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:32 AM, John Botscharow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:03 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:
> Chris,
>
> I agree that setting up a meeting for the entire group is going to be
> difficult, but not impossible and I think that THIS meeting should
> involve everyone. We may very well end up with regional meetings later
> on, but right now we need to resolve the organizational issues at a
> single meeting of the entire group - or at least as many as can make it.
>
> As for what day of the week, I suggest either Sat. or Sun. since that
> should avoid any day job conflicts for most people. Amd, given, from the
> time zone responses, that we have a 13 hr range of time zones, it would
> seem that something in the early afteroon say 1 or 2 PM UTC would keep
> the time reasonable for all of us - not too early for those of us at UTC
> -5 and not too late for those at UTC +8.
>
> Also doing it on a Sat. would probably give everyone the most
> flexibility in the amount of time they can commit to the meeting. I
> really don't think this is going to be a short meeting :-) and we all
> should be prepared for that.
>
> The urgency of getting organized is another reason that I feel we need
> to do this at a full team meeting. Regional meetings first would
> lengthen the time frame of resolving the organizational issues, and I
> don't think we have that luxury.
>
> > I think part of the problem with these meetings is that given the
> > international basis of the marketing team, whenever you organise one,
> > someone will be unable to attend.
> >
> > I propose that an agenda is fixed, with a set of issues to be
> > addressed and that the agenda is discussed at a group of regional
> > meetings.
> >
> > The responses to the discussed issues could then be noted and fed
> > 'back up' to the international level and a decision arrived upon based
> > on the common consensus of the regional findings.
> >
> > Either that, or split the marketing team into regional marketing teams
> > with the main marketing team as an advice centre for people to discuss
> > and feed ideas up to. I did this over at ubuntu-uk here
> > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk-marketing<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-uk-marketing>
> >
> > Although we've not done much as of yet, it is a good way to identify
> > people with an interest in marketing in each locality and I'm sure
> > formalising the process would help get things moving along more
> > smoothly.
> >
> > Chris
> >
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