-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:21:59 -0300 "Cody A.W. Somerville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've addressed each of Cody's objections so scroll and read, please
> This project is not feasible for several reasons. The primary one > being that we'd never be able to get a list of people who buy these > products since it would violate privacy laws in most countries. We really don't need that list. That was somewhat tongue-in-cheek - my bad, I should have said that originally, an inside marketing joke. but the list will probably be available in one form or another through list brokers if we have the money to burn. At least for the US anyway. But it can be done in a number of creative ways at a local level without necessarily needing access to personal info. We just have to get creative and think outside the box. Creativity, optimism and a willingness to try anything as long as it is moral and legal are what is needed for successful marketing. > > Second, who will cover the cost of paper, envelopes, printing, and man > power? The LoCos, if they want to do this. I have seen posts where some LoCos at least, have spent this kind of money for other marketing projects, and depending on what the relationship we work out with Canonical looks like, it is possible they may be able to help. They already do the disks. > > Third... why is someone who buys a cellphone that runs free, open > source software more of a prime candidate than someone who does not? > Chances are they bought the cellphone because it was cheaper not > because of philosophical reasons... and if they did do so for the > latter than they probably already know about Ubuntu and how to get it. And after they use it they find it is not only cheaper but BETTER!!!! An analogy: you buy ethanol because it is currently cheaper than gas. and in using it you find your vehicle gets better mileage, runs better, cleaner and needs less maintenance. Then gas prices go down. Are you going to go back to using gasoline or stick with ethanol???? SMART people with stick with ethanol. A lot of people WILL buy these phones because they are cheaper and for many it will be their first exposure to a FOSS. Remember, this involves Google and think about the marketing resources they have at their disposal. I guarantee you that Google will get a piece of the action on every phone sold. They will advertise this all over the Internet on the most popular social networks - the sites that the average "semi-literate" computer user - read Windows user - loves to visit. > > So, by all means you're welcome to attempt this but it certainly > isn't a candidate for being a marketing team project considering we > have a hard enough time organizing efforts for much more tangible > goals. I've already said my piece on this topic so I will not comment further. One point though: any good marketing project has to start with research first. A lot of potentially good marketing projects fail for a lack of research. > > I also have to admit that I find it annoying and disappointing to see > such outlandish ideas being proposed by someone who I thought might > breath new life into a dying team. > New life comes from new ideas and new perspectives on old ideas. This is what I was talking about in my earlier, somewhat heated exchanges about the meeting. As far as outlandish, well, people though that Edison's idea of a light bulb was outlandish or Alexander Graham Bell's idea of a telephone or JFJ's call to put a man on the moon were outlandish. - -- Peace! John -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIT0CLsTN+hz1Fu7URAiurAKCunaSBKlyx+11ilHDoLw1oB2nixgCeNdzT GOIMuvScqzQjNpZ2OYaL/Cw= =Y6yv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
