On 12/06/08 06:08, John Botscharow wrote:
> A leader would be the person to either set up the project, provide
> direction on how to set it up, especially for new people like me :-),
> or determine that the project is inappropriate for the team - if such a
> thing happens here. A leader would be the person to go ask questions
> like this. I have tried to find answers on both Launchpad and the wiki
> but with limited success. So any help you can provide would be much
> appreciated.
I'm finding it more and more troublesome that the notion of a leader
"doing" things for you exists.

In the FOSS world which we operate individuals make their contributions
and the collective benefits. If you feel a project is warranted and you
wish it to come under the banner of the Ubuntu-Marketing Team, then the
path to success most likely contains the following steps - which are
most likely incomplete but at least a starting point.

    * Think of an idea.
    * Write it up.
    * Send the document to the team list. (Either as an email, or a link
      to a web-page.)
    * Ask for comment.
    * Update the document.
    * Ask for more comment - until such time as there is general
      agreement, or no strong opposition - apathy is always a problem.
    * Ask for assistance on how to implement your idea if the process is
      new to you.
    * Implement the proposal.
    * Profit!

Initiative helps, that is, do your homework before asking - people here
are not paid to do anything and are giving of their free time - like I
am right now in responding to you.

You may well think you need a leader, but in responding to you in the
way that I am, I'm providing "leadership", but I'm not claiming to be a
leader - nor do I want to become "your leader". You are free to
contribute in the same manner.

As I have said in the past, you underestimate the value that the team
has for your contributions, but I suspect that you are burning bridges
quite rapidly at the moment.


Onto specifics:

In the examples you raise, the FOSS solution is:
> 1. I have expressed on this list a desire to help out with the
> spreadubuntu web site project, but have no clue how to join that
> project
Ask the list how you join the project. My Internet connection at the
moment is extremely flaky (you just have to love ISP firmware upgrades),
otherwise I'd point you at the project page and instructions on how to
achieve this.

> 2. I have suggested today on this list that the marketing team set up
> an official project to start a letter-writing campaign to manufacturers
> or wireless adapters/cards that use proprietary drivers that they work
> out a way to make those drivers available to FOSS users but do not know
> what the next step should be to get this going as a project.
The place to store such a project is Launchpad. You could ask in
#launchpad how you might create a project, but I strongly suspect that
you can just create one without reference to anything. Personally, if
that were the case I'd ask for some feedback on its name and position in
LP from the group before I took the initiative to make such a thing.
After the project has been created, you could start adding content to it.

Another approach is to draft some content and add it to the wiki. If
you're unsure on how to do that, ask.


> 3. I posted some information today about Apple's new iPhome mobile
> Internet device and the fact that Google is planning to release an FOSS
> version. I feel that this is a very good marketing opportunity for
> Ubuntu as the people who buy the Google Android will gain exposure to
> FOSS and be prime prospects for a FOSS desktop. Given that the Android
> will more than likely be cheaper than the Apple version, we should see
> a lot of Mac and Windows users buying it. Same problem as #2.
Well, you are free to market to whomever you wish. The team meeting
agreed that we should be creating resources to assist the Ubuntu
Community rather than the general public. If you wish to create a
marketing plan to target the market you are advocating, then you are
free to do so. If you contribute drafts to the list there will most
likely be suggestions on how to improve the draft.


Cheers,
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