Agreed with you. But... isn't that Canonical Landscape? Cheers, Leandro.
Em Sáb, 2008-05-03 às 15:31 -0700, Martin Hess escreveu: > I find people who think in terms of a few servers will at times find a > desktop GUI compelling, but once you move to hundreds or thousands of > servers the idea of connecting into a desktop GUI on each machine to > administer is beyond ridiculous. > > > I think GUIs are fine but only if they can be used control whole > swaths of machines at once i.e. : > > > * upgrade some package on some set of machines > > * revert to prior package on some set of machines > > * compare machines for installed package differences > > * change netfilter policies on some set of machines to refuse or allow > a certain type of traffic > > * start/stop service on some set of machines > > * change config file on some set of machines > > * ect... > > > The list of course is pretty much endless but you get the idea. When > you have many machines it is pretty much out of the question to > connect to each one and administer it individually by hand, either buy > GUI or shell. > > > I think any server GUI that is consider should be scalable. It should > be able to move beyond the needs of one or 2 servers and be able to > handle many servers. > > > Proposal: > > > I propose creating requirements for a server GUI and then see if we > can find anything that meets it. So far I think I've seen the > following: > > > 1) Optional - must not be required for Ubuntu Server > 2) Secure - must not have known security issues, must have good known > security architecture > 3) Scalable - must be able to administer sets of machines (I know > there is not necessarily any consensus on this one and people might > reject it as a requirement) > 4) ? > > > Shameless plug for #3: > > > * gets xwindows off the servers which is a know security risk and > resource hog > * potentially can require nothing more than sshd and preshared keys on > all the servers > > > > On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Leandro Pereira de Lima e Silva wrote: > > > I'm talking about virt-install, which will open a VNC connection to > > the machine and only allow connections from localhost. > > > > Cheers, Leandro. > > > > 2008/5/3 Ante Karamatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sat, 3 May 2008 12:15:07 -0300 > > "Leandro Pereira de Lima e Silva" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I think that is necessary for creating virtual machines > > following > > > Ubuntu Server guide, isn't it? > > > > > > If you are talking about virt-manager, then no. virt-manager > > is a tool > > you'll use on you workstation and manage virtual machines on > > a pool of > > ubuntu servers. > > > > -- > > > > ubuntu-server mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Leandro Pereira de Lima e Silva -- > > ubuntu-server mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam > > > -- > ubuntu-server mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
