Quoting Clint Byrum ([email protected]):
> On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 07:52 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > Quoting Scott Kitterman ([email protected]):
> > > There was a lot of discussion around improving the server boot experience 
> > > before the UDS-M.  A number of people expressed interest in seeing more 
> > > useful 
> > > diagnostic information during boot.  Others expressed concerns with boot 
> > > reliability on the more complex hardware typically found in servers.
> > > 
> > > How are we doing on this?  Personally, I can't remember the last time I 
> > > rebooted a server and it wasn't via SSH and the hardware I use is the 
> > > sort 
> > > there were problems with.  Are these still issues for the Ubuntu Server 
> > > community?
> > > 
> > > Scott K
> > 
> > I think right now these issues are oveshadowed by the fact that a
> > great deal of server software is not yet upstartified.  I think that
> > needs to be addressed for O.
> 
> I wonder if we need to address all of them.

Certainly not :)

We do need to discuss which ones we need.

> Rather than focus on upstartifying everything, the focus should probably
> be on getting the key infrastructure pieces working well in upstart
> (kerberos, ssh, ldap, nfs, etc), and then in improving the sysvinit
> compatibility layer so that Ubuntu continues to shine when something
> uses a sysvinit job.

+1

(lots of good stuff snipped)

thanks,
-serge

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