On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 02:25, Sander Smeenk <[email protected]> wrote: > Quoting Clint Byrum ([email protected]): > >> > * Plymouth splashscreens (even textbased ones!) >> With things starting in parallel, plymouth is just a multiplexer that >> keeps messages and user interaction from running all over eachother. >> I'm not sure why you'd be against that. > > I'd be happy with unsorted lines prefixed with a PID or procname or > something. It would be like going through maillogs, i'm used to that ;) >
That would be brilliant! (i.e., prefix each line with PID) I'm all for that :-) >> Agreed that some things have been done to the boot that make no sense >> for servers. You've done a nice job identifying a few of them above. > > Yeah. You've nailed my point. "Ubuntu" is geared, or gearing, towards > Desktop users. I have no beef with that, i love Ubuntu on the desktop. > My parents love it too. It just works so well. > > When i install Ubuntu on a server i keep asking: why? > Why do we want our server to have backgrounds in GRUB and show > bootscreens during boot? Why do we want to start processes in parallel? > With current hardware it takes longer to get through all BIOS POSTs, > disk-detection, PXE and other ROMs than it takes to boot the OS. ;) > Well, all my Ubuntu Servers are virtualized, and thanks to parallelized startup, 10.04 takes only 10-20 seconds to complete 'shutdown -r now' and go back to operation ;-) (Virtualization helped greatly in cutting down the Server-Box-Startup-DooHickery wait -- now I no longer rue the day I have to restart a server :-D) So, I *love* the parallelized startup. But I *despise* the silent startup. > One solution could be a subset of packages geared to servers? > Don't know how feasible that is. > > Currently it's really only the kernel that makes a server install a > server install. The packages installed are all the same available on the > desktop. There's just less pulled in though metapackages at install. > >> Keep the ideas coming everybody! > > Thanks for sharing your views and insights! > > With regards, > -Sander. -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com -- ubuntu-server mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
