A hearty, resounding, reverberating "YES, PLEASE!! I want to see my server's booting process!!!"
Rgds, On 2011-04-06, Sander Smeenk <[email protected]> wrote: > Quoting Louis RUPPERT ([email protected]): > >> They are for me. In the rare instance of a hardware or boot failure, I >> like to be able to watch the process happen, and to be able to have a >> working console to login to. Anything that requires bootsplash and >> upstart potentially interferes with that. I don't care if my server >> looks pretty when it's booting. I do care that I can see at what point >> in the boot process a catastrophic failure has occurred. > > I do so much agree with this. I recently subscribed here to discuss > exactly these concerns with Ubuntu's server edition. > > These things really, really bug me in my work with Ubuntu Server: > > * GRUB's default HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true > * GRUB's default "graphical console" > * Plymouth splashscreens (even textbased ones!) > * Upstart hiding console-output > > I am fully aware of the fact that this is 'open source' and i can 'use > the source, Luke!'. That's exactly what i do after installing a server: > disable most of the above listed "features". > > What bugs me is the sheer illogical choices that have been made for > Ubuntu Server. These things are perfect for Ubuntu Desktop installs as > my mom doesn't need to see the kernel boot, but for a server, these > messages are of essential value to debugging (boot)problems. A situation > i face on a weekly basis hosting/maintaining >300 Ubuntu servers. > > As Louis so neatly wrote down: > > | "I like to be able to watch the process happen. [ .. ] I don't care if > | my server looks pretty when it's booting. I do care that I can see at > | what point in the boot process a catastrophic failure has occurred." > > +1 > > With regards, > -Sander. > -- > | Don't hate yourself in the morning -- sleep till noon. > | 4096R/20CC6CD2 - 6D40 1A20 B9AA 87D4 84C7 FBD6 F3A9 9442 20CC 6CD2 > > -- > ubuntu-server mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam > -- -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/ -- ubuntu-server mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
