On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:41:56 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: >enlightenment WM
It's a freakish WM. Even if it nowadays really should be 100% stable, as claimed so often in the past, when it was not 100% stable. Even if it nowadays should provide at least one neutral theme. Even if the work-flow nowadays should be closer to GNOME2 and XFCE4 the it was in the past, if you really want a lightweight WM, then why not using a WM that has got a huger community, where more people can contribute/recommend combinations with good panels, file browsers, terminal emulations etc., such as openbox? If you want the most lightweight WM that is stable, provides a neutral theme and that provides a work-flow closer to GNOME2 and XFCE4, then why not using JWM? There are far more WMs available that are a much better choice. Enlightenment is a bad choice compared to other WMs. I tested several WMs. FWIW you even could consider to use XFWM4 without XFCE4, nearly everything is better then Enlightenment. However, I guess the averaged user expects to get a WM, especially since Ubuntu Studio is not an audio distro, it's an artist distro. Btw. I'm using openbox and just in case have JWM installed, assumed an update should break openbox. Both work as expected on Arch Linux, but all WMs suffer on Ubuntu from the odd behaviour, that for some for unknown reason the common files to set up fonts are ignored. IMO it's wiser to stay with XFCE4 or to use Mate. I also tested several DEs. Cinnamon is a no-go, KDE>=4 is a no-go, GNOME3 is a no-go. For my needs Xfce4 became a no-go too and Mate is a no-go too, but Xfce4 and Mate for averaged users who expect a DE, is the best choice. Note, most artists dislike DEs and WMs that follow fashions for the work-flow and for the themes. I'm aware that a few audio users like all that crappy GUIs, such as the one of Guitarix, but most serious artists and engineers want something that has got a neutral theme and that provides an old faithful work-flow. Imagine you're drawing, then the interaction of WM/DE themes is much more important, since it not only affects the work-flow, the interaction directly affects the drawing. Unfortunately I can't pay for the original of Josef Albers's Interaction of Color, but fortunately the Josef Albers Museum is in Bottrop, a neighbour town of my home town Oberhausen, so when I was young and learning, I often visited the museum. If you watch the squares, you'll understand why neutral default themes are important: https://www.google.de/search?q=josef+albers&biw=1152&bih=709&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwil_YeBrbDJAhVIKg4KHT74AKkQ_AUIBigB Again, the averaged user likely wants a DE, not a WM. Experienced users anyway will set up their customized environments. As often mentioned in the past, I bet that around 90% of experienced GUI terminal users install roxterm, whatever WM/DE they are using, since all other terminals are broken or they prefer something completely simple, such as xterm, but quasi nobody will use something like xfce4-terminal, gnome-terminal, konsole etc.. Keep it simple, as e.g xtrem or do it perfectly comfortable, IOW care about resized windows etc., then use roxterm. However, the averaged artist who installs an Ubuntu flavour unlikely cares about this. Another important argument is to consider not too often to switch the default DE/WM and if you need to switch to another WM/DE, then it's the best that users won't notice much difference. IOW stay with Xfce4 or switch to something that is as close to Xfce4, as possible, so maybe Mate. Enlightenment is so far away from Xfce4 compared to other WM, that I'm absolutely against Enlightenment. Regards, Ralf -- http://www.grundgesetz-gratis.de/ -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
