Worth, 10.04 is past end of life from Ubuntu (2015) those people need to upgrade if they want any updates from us or Ubuntu.
12.04 only has 1 year left (2017), so it's unlikely to get anything except bugfix releases if possible (not always possible). Yes, this thread is about clarifying the policies. Thanks, Alex On 04/26/2016 07:50 AM, Worth Lutz wrote: > I've got customers with servers running Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04. > > Older LTS versions of Ubuntu need access to the updates to GIS packages. > As fixes and improvements get added, how will this be reflected in > UbuntuGIS? > > I do not understand the process of how the Ubuntu packages get updated. > In the past I've used UbuntuGis-unstable to get updated versions of > MapServer which have fixes I needed to run on production servers. > > I think a defined policy of what is included in Stable, Unstable and > Testing/Experimental is important. > > Thanks to all who are working to keep UbuntuGis up to date! > > *Worth Lutz* > > > On 4/25/2016 9:15 PM, Alex Mandel wrote: >> On 04/25/2016 01:59 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: >>> On 04/25/2016 11:45 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: >>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Alex M <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Historically we haven't done a great job of keeping stable very >>>>> relevant, but people running servers in production really ought to be >>>>> using it and not unstable. Maybe a clearer policy on when things >>>>> should >>>>> move to stable needs to be made (it is ok for some packages to be the >>>>> same version as unstable). >>>> With quite DebianGIS quite up-to-date, Ubuntu already has rather >>>> recent versions of most packages. I think stable becomes perhaps even >>>> less relevant. For non-LTS releases I think we should not use it >>>> (well, never say never). For LTS releases, I think the policy of >>>> copying whatever gets on OSGeo live after the release is quite a good >>>> policy. It gets a lot of testing. >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> Johan >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> UbuntuGIS mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu >>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki >>> +1 to rename testing to experimental. Actually I have started building >>> everything based on gdal 2.0 there already. >>> Also, +1 for a policy to copy everything from OSGeoLive after release. >>> >>> Best, >>> Angelos >>> >> Only latest Ubuntu has recent versions of most packages. >> 12.04 and 14.04 actually have fairly old packages at this point but are >> still in wide use and will be for another 1,3 years respectively. >> >> UbuntuGIS stable is moot for Xenial but very important to Trusty. If >> someone needs to stick to QGIS 2.8 and GDAL 1.11.x stable is where they >> should be able to get that. In 6 months to a year stable will actually >> become important for Xenial too since QGIS 2.14 will be the LTS and >> should move to stable, with 2.16 and the upcoming 3.x series going to >> unstable... >> >> +1 to copying packages from osgeo-live, however we shouldn't let that >> timetable keep us from updating unstable whenever new releases come out. >> >> As I've said before in the past, if we can create simpler instructions >> for all the easyish packages, there are more volunteers who would gladly >> help keep packages flowing. I suppose we should make a list of who >> generally upkeeps which packages. >> >> Thanks, >> Alex >> _______________________________________________ >> UbuntuGIS mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu >> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki > > > > > _______________________________________________ > UbuntuGIS mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu > http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki > _______________________________________________ UbuntuGIS mailing list [email protected] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
