Thanks, My error on our versions. It's 12 & 14. I typed without thinking.
I understand dependencies sometimes keep updates from getting to older systems. I was hoping to jump to 16.04 but will have to wait on php-mapscript. Thanks for your work in making these packages available. Worth > On Apr 26, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Alex Mandel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Worth, > > 10.04 is past end of life from Ubuntu (2015) those people need to > upgrade if they want any updates from us or Ubuntu. > > 12.04 only has 1 year left (2017), so it's unlikely to get anything > except bugfix releases if possible (not always possible). > > Yes, this thread is about clarifying the policies. > > Thanks, > Alex > >> On 04/26/2016 07:50 AM, Worth Lutz wrote: >> I've got customers with servers running Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04. >> >> Older LTS versions of Ubuntu need access to the updates to GIS packages. >> As fixes and improvements get added, how will this be reflected in >> UbuntuGIS? >> >> I do not understand the process of how the Ubuntu packages get updated. >> In the past I've used UbuntuGis-unstable to get updated versions of >> MapServer which have fixes I needed to run on production servers. >> >> I think a defined policy of what is included in Stable, Unstable and >> Testing/Experimental is important. >> >> Thanks to all who are working to keep UbuntuGis up to date! >> >> *Worth Lutz* >> >> >>> On 4/25/2016 9:15 PM, Alex Mandel wrote: >>>> On 04/25/2016 01:59 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: >>>>> On 04/25/2016 11:45 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: >>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Alex M <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Historically we haven't done a great job of keeping stable very >>>>>> relevant, but people running servers in production really ought to be >>>>>> using it and not unstable. Maybe a clearer policy on when things >>>>>> should >>>>>> move to stable needs to be made (it is ok for some packages to be the >>>>>> same version as unstable). >>>>> With quite DebianGIS quite up-to-date, Ubuntu already has rather >>>>> recent versions of most packages. I think stable becomes perhaps even >>>>> less relevant. For non-LTS releases I think we should not use it >>>>> (well, never say never). For LTS releases, I think the policy of >>>>> copying whatever gets on OSGeo live after the release is quite a good >>>>> policy. It gets a lot of testing. >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> Johan >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> UbuntuGIS mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu >>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki >>>> +1 to rename testing to experimental. Actually I have started building >>>> everything based on gdal 2.0 there already. >>>> Also, +1 for a policy to copy everything from OSGeoLive after release. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Angelos >>> Only latest Ubuntu has recent versions of most packages. >>> 12.04 and 14.04 actually have fairly old packages at this point but are >>> still in wide use and will be for another 1,3 years respectively. >>> >>> UbuntuGIS stable is moot for Xenial but very important to Trusty. If >>> someone needs to stick to QGIS 2.8 and GDAL 1.11.x stable is where they >>> should be able to get that. In 6 months to a year stable will actually >>> become important for Xenial too since QGIS 2.14 will be the LTS and >>> should move to stable, with 2.16 and the upcoming 3.x series going to >>> unstable... >>> >>> +1 to copying packages from osgeo-live, however we shouldn't let that >>> timetable keep us from updating unstable whenever new releases come out. >>> >>> As I've said before in the past, if we can create simpler instructions >>> for all the easyish packages, there are more volunteers who would gladly >>> help keep packages flowing. I suppose we should make a list of who >>> generally upkeeps which packages. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex >>> _______________________________________________ >>> UbuntuGIS mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu >>> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UbuntuGIS mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu >> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki > _______________________________________________ UbuntuGIS mailing list [email protected] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
