64-bit is still young for both Windows and Linux. At the moment it doesn't worth the effort, and you won't notice any speed-up.
Do you really need more than 3GB of RAM? Come on, lets be serious, 3GB is enough even if your are doing 3D modeling with Blender, or editing fairly large images with GIMP. Install the 32-bit version and never worry again :) On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:56 PM, smr <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ah, that detail completely escaped me, I figured versioning was an > issue that was simply decided internally and end users can just enjoy > the result but year and month's beautifully logical as a number > system, it saves the "actually, I'm not feeling this is significant > enough for a whole number increase" arguments that you get in a > committee and it's just "no, guys, it's April, it's getting a .04" > > I've never typed a book, unsurprisingly enough, into a single > OpenOffice document so I don't have empirical evidence of how it works > with documents over about 300 pages but there's never been a paging > failure even when I do open these larger documents, with 1GB of ram. I > still don't think that OpenOffice has an "If page number > 100 then > crash" function and think being unable to handle documents of that > size, since people have been able to electronically typeset huge books > for decades before the 4GB DIMM, points to a deeper underlying issue > than Ubuntu's x64 kernel update policy. That sounds broken to me and > programs shouldn't crash if you put as much data into it as the > designers allow you (if OO.o had a 600 page limit it's ok for it to > crash at 800, that's been announced and designed around), although the > thought does occur - is OpenOffice intended for book typesetting? I > thought the word processor was a middle step. Whoa, has Quark and TeX > indoctrinated me that much? > > I'll admit, my problem here is both how different the experience is to > mine but mainly the trouble my mind has in just fitting around the > idea of any text document needing 8GB of RAM to work on it. Patient > people edit HD video on less than that. > > On Apr 2, 3:18 pm, Roy <[email protected]> wrote: > > All Ubuntu releases in recent years end in 04 or 10 because they are > > released in April or October respectively. The number before the dot > refers > > to the year. So 8.04 was released in April, 2008. > > have a vaguely unlimited page count if they can't > > Not all 04 releases are considered "stable". Normal releases have only 18 > > months of support and they are updated continuously. Stable releases are > > not. Stable updates are less frequent and usually only deal with security > > problems, etc. As such you can expect to be running OpenOffice 2.4 until > > 2011 while Ubuntu 9.04 users will be running OpenOffice 3.0. > > > > Stable releases are referred to as LTS which stand for Long Term Support > and > > the desktop version has three years and the server five. Ubuntu 8.04 was > LTS > > and it will expire in April 2011 for the desktop and April 2013 for the > > server. Ubuntu 8.10 which came out six months after 8.04 expires April > 2010 > > by contrast. > > > > LTS releases overlap and the next one is due next spring in April, 2010 > one > > year before the previous one expires (desktop version). > > > > Roy > > > > Linux: Fast, friendly, flexible and ... free! > > Support open Source > > <,*)}}+< > > Only dead fish go with the flow. > > > > 2009/4/1 smr <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Well, no. I install the updates that get pushed out to me every day, > > > I don't think I'd be allowed to live it down if I caught an exploit > > > from an unpatched version of Linux (not to mention I've got a > > > positively draconian network policy at my university which bans your > > > MAC address for breaking it, so anti virus and every patch the world > > > provides as soon as it provides it as a standard operating policy). > > > Distribution updates are done incrementally on the top of the previous > > > installation without breaking stride and I aim to upgrade to Jaunty > > > the day the stable release comes out. > > > > > It was pretty immediately clear that we were talking about different > > > editions from the outset (you had regular crashes and mine survives > > > physical bag malfunctions onto pavement and resumes immediately > > > afterwards) but the differences are vast. I use the regular 32 bit > > > Ubuntu with a kernel recompiled for my laptop's Pentium M and I also > > > play pretty free with Compiz plugins, which if it comes from the > > > supported sources stay working and responsive. It does seem fair > > > enough to change to another distribution if you want the opposite of > > > everything Ubuntu wants to provide. > > > > > The x64 is required to address all the memory that OpenOffice needs > > > comment doesn't fit with my experience - I get by with 1GB and, > > > firstly, don't use swap but also didn't find OpenOffice would crash > > > when I was using a 512MB system that did swap. That seems to point to > > > much more drastic underlying issues than just Cannonical's lesser > > > adoption of a niche window manager and a relatively, though > > > increasingly well supported, niche platform. Bearing in mind that > > > Ubuntu is currently designed around the assumption that you're using > > > it on something like i386 and with Gnome you've basically decided to > > > drive upside down on the other side of the road. Suse will probably > > > work better than Gnome at KDE (since it's the primary system) but will > > > have a incredibly hard time handling apt. It's a choice you'll just > > > have to make, my choice of Gnome over KDE dates from the days of Red > > > Hat Linux, I was turned off by Keramik and simply didn't find it > > > worked the same way I did and was just operating it rather than > > > enjoying it. The only application I've found I can't really replace on > > > Gnome or just download the KDE libs and run that I'd quite like is a > > > Fuzzy Clock (hardly leading the fight against cancer, tbh) that ties > > > in the panel and to Google Calendar, beyond that I've been happy. > > > > > The huge success that regular Ubuntu has had has caused an upswell of > > > debian compatible (and even written-for) software which I currently > > > can't see changing, it's not dissimilar to how Windows became the > > > market leader and caused everyone to write for it or get out of the > > > way. > > > -- Samuel Goldwyn - "I don't think anyone should write their autobiography until after they're dead." --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ubuntu Linux" group. 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