So, to summarise that, as well as no longer using Ubuntu you don't actually use OpenOffice or 8GB of RAM to edit text files either? Why did you say that's what you needed then? I'm going to point out that you don't need to be a software developer to understand when someone keeps changing their story, you need to be a psychic just to keep up. I said I couldn't see how you'd ever use 8GB to edit text files and, well, you've just said you don't, so that's fine.
I would assume a software developer would understand quite how much data 8BG actually is and understand why I was dubious of your claim. A text document which needed 8GB to hold it (working from a decimal megabyte, so even rounding down) would be something like 2,080,000 A4 pages long, and that's only if you insisted on having every last page in memory at the same time. Are your fingers alright after all that typing? Basically are you writing a programming book or copying out the Library of Congress? 8GB is a ridiculous amount of memory to say you require to write a book and I called you on it, so I don't see a need to get defensive about my occupation. Soo, I'm not /saying/ you're making stuff up here, but... On Apr 6, 10:21 pm, yyyc186 <[email protected]> wrote: > On Apr 5, 12:08 pm, Icebreaker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ken, we both know that yyyc186 won't use 8GB of RAM just for editing some > > documents, nor do anything which would roughly require more than 3GB of RAM > > :) > > > He's just a mortal Linux user :) > > When OpenOffice had both documents opened, free showed less than 4Gig > free. Of course it didn't last long before it managed to take out all > of Unbuntu. > > On OpenSuse OO can't handle the documents, but at least it is not able > to take out OpenSuSE 11.1. As I said, the last kernel update from > Cannonical trashed thousands of machines. > > To the other person who can't wrap his mind around the problem, let me > explain it. I created similar documents to this (in size and content) > with WordPerfect under DOS. The document I'm porting was actually > created with WordPerfect under XP Pro. Aparently you've never been a > software developer or this situation wouldn't be a problem for you to > understand. > > WordPerfect was written by professional programmers. They were > trained to believe that a program which crashes was their fault. As a > result of this training, they only loaded a few pages into memory at > any one time. This same design carried forward from DOS to the > various Windows viruses...er I mean operating systems. > > OpenOffice was written by Java programmers, not trained > professionals. The critical difference is found in the concept of > memory usage. To a Java developer, memory is someone elses problem. > That is a night and day difference from developers who came from > platforms which had 64K-words to work with, and later developers tring > to make things run in what was left of the narrow 640K window, knowing > full well some fool overlayed part of their video memory with a > critical driver and as soon as you go into high graphics mode you are > going to trash it. > > There's not a designed in page limit, but a 32-bit mindset development > problem. > > Further example would be OpenOffice configuration. When you open a > second document, OpenOffice doesn't open and MDI window, it launches a > new instance. (Do a free from a terminal window before and after with > a tiny document to see how much goes bye-bye. Put the words "Hello > World!" in a file and make that your second document you open.) > > You can easily contrast this with Lotus Symphony from IBM (unless you > are running 64-bit Ubuntu because there is no release for that and the > 32-bit won't install.) I can load this same pair of documents in > Symphony on the same machine where OO anhiliates the memory along with > my browser and an xterm window and still see more than 5Gig when I > type free in konsole. Why? Symphony uses the MDI way of life. It > may have even borrowed a lot of its internal design from the original > DOS Symphony product. In short, it loads a few pages at a time. Your > document size is limited only by free disk space. > > Will I use 8gig? Not as long as I'm using Symphony. I doubt > OpenOffice will ever get out of its 32-bit-memory-is-someone-elses- > problem mindset, so...we won't know just how much it takes to load > both versions of this document. I've added over 100 pages to it > without using any additional memory under Symphony. I couldn't edit > long enough to add a page in OpenOffice. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ubuntu Linux" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntulinux?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
