Levi,

Does Dragon's Keep have any copies in stock?

On Sep 8, 7:23 pm, DKeep <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> I spoke with GW today.  Dragon's Keep is a partner ship store for
> Utah.  He clearly stated that they are sold out of Space Hulk and
> there are no current plans for another print or edition.  As for what
> that means for its price or value I have no comment.  There are many
> businesses that way over bought on this game only to inflate the price
> and sell over time on Ebay etc.  So I doubt that the game will inflate
> significantly.  It is my experience that while the game may possible
> increase in value it will not become something of significant value.
> There is little inherent value and it is just not rare enough.  But
> who knows I could be wrong.  My two cents.
>
> Levi Jensen
>
> On Sep 8, 5:56 pm, Kenneth Li <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yep, agree with you on the lame part, as 10 years ago, GW is still pretty
> > awesome, but since then, they have grown into somewhat of a miniature game
> > giant, or they have the mentality of such an entity (being high up and do
> > things their own way etc), but without the behavior of such (supporting the
> > gamers that made them into what they are today...)
>
> > Anyway, that is why I am confused about (rumors of the Space Hulk copies
> > being printed), Players on BGG is hyping about how great it is, and how it
> > is worth it (consider the price they pay etc), also, on that it is already
> > out-of-print, and will be their college fund for kids etc... But all this is
> > without facts.
>
> > Currently, I can see BGR online copies being sold out (being priced at $80,
> > who can resist). And England GW online store being sold out (as GW
> > advertise), but you can still order a copy in GW US. So there is no facts on
> > the number of copies being sold etc, and how many is in the stores etc.
>
> > So, my question remains open: How long will it take for Space Hulk to sell
> > out, and then is there more copies coming?
>
> > I guess, GW want you to think that copies are extremely limited, so it will
> > sell out faster, and the fan boys will always say it is already Out of
> > Print, so all the copies they grab will have some value in the near future.
> > But is that real? Is it such an easy gold mine? Just get a couple of copies
> > and sitting on it will make you rich beyond all imagination?
>
> > I don't know... Let see how long it will take GW US to sell out?
>
> > BTW, just some interesting tidbits, plastic molding (which is used by all
> > the plastic miniatures in current edition of SH) is totally different than
> > white metal molding (used to produce all the metal miniatures), while in
> > metal molding, the mold that make the miniatures have quite a limited use,
> > thus after certain castings (I think in 10 of thousands), the mold will be
> > useless. But in plastic molding, the mold used to produce the plastic
> > miniatures is virtually indestructible, I mean it can last a long time
> > (explains all those plastic model kits for model building, are still in
> > production after like 20 to 30 years). But then set up cost of such a
> > plastic mold is in the 10 of thousands dollars. While the production cost
> > (producing each spruces) is virtually very little.
>
> > Thus the question is why produce 10 thousand copies, when the production
> > cost of 100 thousand copies is just like 2 to 3 times more?
>
> > Anyway, just to stir up the rumor pot :)
>
> > Maybe we can set up a bet on when SH will be sold out?
>
> > --- Ken ---
>
> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Mark Crane <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Well, I agree that Games Workshop is pretty lame.  They remind me of
> > > Microsoft in many ways, and obviously consider games primarily as
> > > marketing channels through which miniatures can be sold.  I wish some
> > > of their better games were still around, like Man O' War, as it looks
> > > great.  There have also been rumors that they have printed 20,000
> > > copies of this and that subsequent waves will arrive once the first
> > > batch runs out.
>
> > > On Sep 8, 11:26 am, Kenneth Li <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Well, Ignoring my advice is a good move, as I say before, I may be wrong
> > > and
> > > > judging from the frenzy on Space Hulk, $80 for a copy at BGR is quite a
> > > good
> > > > investment.
>
> > > > Warhammer Fantasy and 40K have quite a following, and although it is not
> > > my
> > > > life style, or it is my view of Games Workshop as a money grabbing
> > > machine,
> > > > just like Magic TG,  Space Hulk will still sell and the game is still
> > > going
> > > > to worth something if you want to trade or sell it away.
>
> > > > As I say before, don't let my issue with GW steer you away. If you have
> > > the
> > > > cash and money to spend, feel free to buy the game and try it out. You
> > > can
> > > > still sell it if you don't like it (the current frenzy), even if you 
> > > > like
> > > it
> > > > and don't think Space Hulk is worth the price, you can still buy it and
> > > sell
> > > > it later trying to make a profit. It is all your call and it is your
> > > money
> > > > too :)
>
> > > > I am just trying to vent on GW, after investing some money (quite an
> > > amount)
> > > > in it on 40K and Fantasy stuff and the recent online policy, their
> > > general
> > > > policy and their un support of good games like Warmaster, Battle of the
> > > Five
> > > > Armies, Man O War, Warhammer Quest, Blood Bowl etc. And continue of
> > > support
> > > > of 40K and Fantasy, because they are not good games, but the miniatures
> > > that
> > > > they need gain them money etc. GW's policy suck, and GW's recent issue
> > > and
> > > > policy suck big time also...
>
> > > > --- Ken ---
>
> > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Mark Crane <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Even though ignoring Ken's advice was incredibly painful, I ended up
> > > > > buying a copy of the special edition on Monday.  I suppose if my kids
> > > > > don't like it I can always sell the figures separately on Ebay to
> > > > > brainwashed Warhammer players and make a tidy profit.
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