Hello Open Solaris, Thank you all for the flood of attentive responses on this question. The responses have in total given a shape to a solution that can be offered to the school:
1. A sun Solaris desktop with dual boot option ( based on Srichand Pendyala's observation that "VMware is free, free as in "free beer" and the pointed advise from GNS that "over-engineering solutions multiply technical / legal / administration. And as Venky pointed out it might not be entirely legal and it could be expensive to run Vista on VMware. 2. Since it is a machine with a basic configuration, Vista that "doubles hardware budget" is out, and as observed, there is no particular reason for Vista for this purpose. So Windows XP. 3. Sriram, how does Open Solaris work with NRC foss ? And with other open source groups ? Is there any interaction between Open Solaris and other Open Source groups ? Is Open Solaris a member or otherwise associated with the govenrment body NRC foss? I will propose a summary solution to this school as also get to work on some more schools, to see if we can come up with an opportunity to create a learning environment in a school or college based on desktop computers and supportive backend servers all of which primarily run Solaris / Open Solaris. Thank you. Sivasubramanian. On 4/13/07, Karthic Somalinga <karthic.sr at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Siva, > Considering the Syllabus you referred to Vista would be a bad option. You > can do that very much with XP flavours even and Vista will add more > complexity and will cost you high. > > As referred by Srichand, both ideas are equally expensive but prefer dual > boot rather than VMWare (as it will require high system configuration). > > - Karthic > > On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <shiva.madras at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Dear Karthik, > > > > Sorry, the original message that I posted under the thread "50 Open > > Solaris School Computers" does not form part of this message. This message > > contains the last two messages of that message thread with the new thread > > headline "Challenge: Teaching .... " > > > > In brief, the original message was about offering a learning solution to > > a school that wants to buy computers for its students who have to learn > > Vbasic, Microsoft Windows, Star Office, C+ and Java. > > > > The school wanted to go in for a Windows computer, I am trying to > > convince them to opt for Solaris. The Solaris computers are to be given to > > the school if a solution for handling the Microsoft part of Syllabus can be > > offered. > > > > Dual Boot or VMware ? Which one is most suitable ? Which one is less > > expensive ? > > > > Thank you. > > Sivasubramanian. > > > > On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <shiva.madras at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Karthik, > > > > > > Please scroll down and read the original post under the thread head > > > "50 Solaris school computers". > > > > > > The question is if there is a computer with Sun Solaris operating > > > system, learning Star Office and java becomes easier. But the student also > > > has to learn windows and Vbasic. > > > > > > How does he do that on a computer with Sun Solaris O/s ? Is Dual Boot > > > with Windows as additional O/S the only way out ? Or can Zen help? These > > > are > > > to be standalones, low cost desktop computers, is Zen a good idea ? And > > > with > > > Zen can a student do his exercises on his Vbasic and Internet Explorer ? > > > > > > Thank you. > > > Sivasubramanian. > > > > > > On 4/12/07, Karthic Somalinga < karthic.sr at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I suppose there is some misunderstanding about Solaris here. > > > > I wonder how somebody can learn Microsoft Windows on Solaris Machine > > > > (unless they understood Solaris as a hardware). > > > > > > > > - Karthic > > > > > > > > On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <shiva.madras at gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > The following syllabus information is received from the school: > > > > > > > > > > XI Std. > > > > > > > > > > June July > > > > > > > > > > An Introduction to Computers Volume 1 > > > > > Number Systems > > > > > An Introduction to Windows > > > > > Windows Explorer, computers, Communications > > > > > > > > > > August > > > > > > > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > > September > > > > > > > > > > HTML - An Introduction to html - some more tags, Beyond the basics > > > > > I & II, Developing Webpages > > > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > Flow Charts Volume II > > > > > Elements of C Language > > > > > Simple C programs > > > > > Control Structures > > > > > > > > > > November > > > > > > > > > > Loop Structures > > > > > > > > > > December > > > > > > > > > > Arrays and Structures > > > > > Functions, Library Functions > > > > > > > > > > January > > > > > > > > > > Files > > > > > > > > > > Standard XII > > > > > > > > > > June > > > > > > > > > > Star Office Writer > > > > > Text Formatting > > > > > Spell Check & Corrections > > > > > Working With Tables > > > > > > > > > > July > > > > > > > > > > Page Formatting > > > > > Spread Sheet > > > > > Database > > > > > > > > > > August > > > > > > > > > > Mutlimedia Introduction > > > > > Star Office Impress > > > > > Object Oriented Concepts using C+ > > > > > Overview of C+ > > > > > > > > > > September > > > > > > > > > > Basic Statements > > > > > Functions > > > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > Structured Data types -Arrays > > > > > Classes and Objects > > > > > Polymorphisms > > > > > > > > > > November > > > > > > > > > > Constuctors and Destructors > > > > > Inherittance > > > > > Impact of Computers on Society > > > > > > > > > > December > > > > > > > > > > IT enabled Services > > > > > Comptuer Ethics > > > > > > > > > > This is for Standards XI and XII. From next academic year onwards, > > > > > Std VI onwards will have subjects like Visual Basic, Java and > > > > > additional > > > > > subjects. > > > > > > > > > > At a later stage Open Solaris can work with the authorities to > > > > > rationalize the syllabus and suggest an improved syllabus, but for > > > > > now, how > > > > > do I say that Solaris is better for this syllabus ? > > > > > > > > > > How would students learn Microsoft Windows on a Solaris machine ? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > Sivasubramanian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/5/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy < shiva.madras at gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shivakumar, Moinack and Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > you have given me a wealth of information. This morning I > > > > > > prepared a pdf on Solaris features which summarises the overall > > > > > > features, > > > > > > now I will convince him with the inputs that you have given. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Sivasubramanian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/5/07, Moinak Ghosh <Moinak.Ghosh at sun.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sriram Popuri wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Is system administation more difficult or more > > > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > > in Solaris ? What he probably wants to know is > > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > solaris has GUI interfaces on the desktop for at > > > > > > > least the > > > > > > > > common system adminstrative tasks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can use Solaris Management Console. > > > > > > > > type smc (/usr/sbin/smc) in a terminal or click from the > > > > > > > menu. This > > > > > > > > will bringup a window through which you can manage many > > > > > > > things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Storage services: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um ... it is recommended to use Storage Services for viewing > > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > There are > > > > > > > a few bugs here that can cause unintended disk formatting! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition JDS (GNOME) from Solaris Express Build 54 > > > > > > > onwards has > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > nice GUIs for managing Users and Groups, Configure Network > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > rebooting > > > > > > > etc. Just go to Main Menu -> Administration and Main Menu > > > > > > > -> > > > > > > > Preferences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Moinak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > ug-bosug mailing list > > > > > > > List-Unsubscribe: mailto:ug-bosug-unsubscribe at opensolaris.org > > > > > > > List-Owner: mailto:ug-bosug-owner at opensolaris.org > > > > > > > List-Archives: > > > > > > > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=54 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ug-bosug mailing list > > > > > List-Unsubscribe: mailto: ug-bosug-unsubscribe at opensolaris.org > > > > > List-Owner: mailto:ug-bosug-owner at opensolaris.org > > > > > List-Archives: > > > > > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=54 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > A good question never has a good answer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ug-bosug mailing list > > > > List-Unsubscribe: mailto: ug-bosug-unsubscribe at opensolaris.org > > > > List-Owner: mailto:ug-bosug-owner at opensolaris.org > > > > List-Archives: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=54 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ug-bosug mailing list > > List-Unsubscribe: mailto: ug-bosug-unsubscribe at opensolaris.org > > List-Owner: mailto:ug-bosug-owner at opensolaris.org > > List-Archives: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=54 > > > > > > -- > A good question never has a good answer > > _______________________________________________ > ug-bosug mailing list > List-Unsubscribe: mailto:ug-bosug-unsubscribe at opensolaris.org > List-Owner: mailto:ug-bosug-owner at opensolaris.org > List-Archives: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=54 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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