Mr. Lutimba Matovu:
Here is proof positive that the Baganda (fresh from Luweero Trangle, 'Panda Gari', etc) have no empathy for war in Northern Uganda:
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Abalangira banaayamba
ABALANGIRA ba Buganda bagenda Gulu ne Acholi batandike ensawo okuyamba okuweereera abaana abakoseddwa obuzibu bw�olutalo lwa Kony. Kino bagenda kukikola nga bayita mu kibiina ekibagatta ekya , �Balangira Foundation�, ekikulirwa omulangira Edward Kimbugwe . Ensawo eno yakuyitibwa Acholi Education Fund .
Kimbugwe yategeezeezza nti omukolo guno gwakubaawo nga Oct 30 omwaka guno e Gulu.
Published on: Sunday, 27th October, 2002
http://www.bukeddekussande.co.ug/detail.php?newsCategoryId=169&newsId=92855
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Makes one wonder what Ms. Toro's agenda is! Outside of Acholi, which other community in Uganda has been as outspoken against this war as the much hated Baganda? WHY IS THIS SO?
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--- Lisa Toro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I happen share relations in both Buganda and "other places" which is a privilage because it opened the way for me beyond "other places" and Buganda or beyond Buganda and other places!. Lisa, can you please name what those "other places" are? Why do you mention Buganda and hide those other places? You also said >"Not because they do not know the betrayal some Buganda did to the Northerners"> Lisa, can you be honest and tell when did this betray take place? Who betrayed who? I think it was Obote who betrayed Buganda by attacking and killing Baganda who did so much to bring him to power. Did Baganda betray Obote, Amin, Lutwa or it's the northern army which fell out which each other? You further said >Now that the NRA/ LRA wars have >brought the north to its knees i have not > heard any of the Buganda politicians taken it > seriously infact it does not concern them. Are you serious with this statement? Have you not heard various Buganda politicians condemning the war and the attrocities in the North? The Kabaka of Buganda H.M Muwenda Mutebi personally called for an end to the war. Various player meetings have been held in Buganda for the suffering people of the North not once not twice. So what are you talking about? How many Northern politicians did that during the wars in Buganda? Lisa, stop and think before you write your nonsense. stop your prejudice. LM > Mitayo Potosi wrote: > > ...."We all share the same motherland, as equals!! > But it is the stock of > most > politicians from outside Buganda to coddle these > base elements from my > tribe." > > My brother Matayo, talk for yourself do not > generalise, there are dark > elements everywhere in the world of politics, > (compromise, give and take are > the words for working together). Political support > is gained through > persuation, contacts, working together and never an > automatic right. Why > every time you people do not seem to accept that > even in Buganda when it > comes to politics just as in life not all Bagandas > think the same and > certainly they are not all saints. > > It is incorrect to tell us that the politicians in > Buganda share the same > motherland, as equals But it is the stock of most > politicians from outside > Buganda to coddle these base elements from Buganda. > I happen share > relations in both Buganda and "other places" which > is a privilage because it > opened the way for me beyond "other places" and > Buganda or beyond Buganda > and other places!. > > The Buganda politicians to a greater degree coddle > base elements from other > tribes. It is the "Buganda Politicians" who are so > closed up in Buganda, to > illustrate, The only time some Muganda politican > went North or East was when > they stood for Presidential elections and spent > minimum time. some did not > even go though they wanted to rule the country. I > can continue that the > ones that went north was given more clear and fair > votes than Museveni, not > once but every occasion !!!. Not because the Buganda > politicians are > superior, not because they do not know the > misperception some politicians in > Buganda have of Northerns, Not because they do not > know the betrayal some > Buganda did to the Northerners, not because they > agreed with everythiing the > Buganda politician had put in the manifesto if any, > not because there were > no Northerners who could stand for leadership but > because they understand > nationhood and are patriotic. Political support is > gained through > persuation, contacts, working with people and never > an automatic right. > > The northern politicians have always gone to and > worked every part of the > country. Take the case of muganda a soldier who > swore to protect the nation > ( may not be representative) does not want to go to > the north! What message > does that show? IT IS THIS RECITING OF EXTREMES THAT > IS THE PROBLEM. Don't > you see? > > Now that the NRA/ LRA wars have brought the north > to its knees i have not > heard any of the Buganda politicians taken it > seriously infact it does not > concern them. > > Also the decades with NRA/M I see the suffering of > my rlatives in Buganda > which they tell me it has never been this bad!!! The > same suffering they are > going through is the same suffering people in the > north are are going > through. > > Please stop and think, the child who yells louder in > the play ground is > usually the trouble causer!! > > Toro > ========================================================== > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:27 PM > Subject: ugnet_: Vukoni - Kony Eats People. Is it > the culture of the region? > > > > Dear Bro Vukoni, > > Thank you for expressing yourself in the civilized > manner that you have > done. > Sometimes one wonders how far, especially my > tribesmen, how far they will > ever go with their narrow prejudices and conceite. > > My only request is that all of us Baganda are not > taken as a conceited lot. > Many of us are perplexed like all decent people > ought to be. > > We all share the same motherland, as equals!! But > it is the stock of most > politicians from outside Buganda to coddle these > base elements from my > tribe. > > It very sad. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Ivinicus factus sum veritabem diceus." ( I have > become an enemy for > speaking the truth ) St Paul! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mitayo Potosi > > > >From: "Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Fw: ugnet_: Vukoni - Kony Eats People. > Is it the culture of > >the region? > >Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:27:36 -0500 > > > >Netters, > > > >Ndugu Ssemakula asked me a question, which I > thought was honest and worth > >answering. While I do recognize that you cannot > control the manner in > >which people discuss an issue that is out in the > public domain, I must > >express my extreme discomfort and dismay at being > associated with debates > >that degenerate into ethnic-bashing. > > > >That just isn't the way I was taught to look at the > world. And in any case, > >I really do believe in the power of persuasion and > in defeating a bad idea > >by cold logic or shining a light in dark corners, > and not loopy, pent-up > >prejudices that tend to bleed into every thread of > discussion. It's > >inefficient, counterproductive, unenlightening, > dishonest, uncivilized, and > >small-minded. > > > >Who the cap fit, let them wear it. > > > >vukoni > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: J Ssemakula > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:13 PM > > Subject: Re: Fw: ugnet_: Vukoni - Kony Eats > People. Is it the culture of > >the region? > > > > > > Given that I made no comment but merely asked a > question about an > >article that appeared in a local daily, how can you > tell 'how' or what I > >think? And, how does Buganda come into this? > > > > FYI here is the article. You might even notice > that I did not write it > >and that it was written by one Dennis Ojwee, a name > that is unlikely to be > >a Kiganda name. > > > > You may want direct your vitriol elsewhere. It'd > also be best to comment > >on those threads that you have followed, rather > than making unwarranted > >remarks mid-stream, so to speak. > > > > ---- > > > > > === message truncated ===
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