Ssemakula
 
Because we have failed to address the national problems in Uganda, because we have failed to look at Uganda as our nation, we have started to walk aim aimlessly we are wobbling in a desert, it is even interesting that today you can have people marching to the conference centre to take amendments to a constitutional assembly, which you and I know that the moment Museveni goes that document is history, some people are now telling us that they know the solution of Uganda's problem, let us get federalism and all will be alright.
But what about the Ugandans who are murdering other Ugandans, what does that have to do with Federalism or unitary? So we go in circles, now if we get a national language we ill be on the road to heaven.
I will not forget a friend who stated that Uganda today needs a brutal military government to clean up and we start a fresh, there is too much joking and taking things for granted. We get a military government, we rebuild a public service system back, we re open our pathetic embassies, fire ambassadors hired for they are Rwandees and replace them with Carrier diplomats, lift the crane back to the air, Uganda Air Lines, close the useless embassies and combine some of them, reopen Makerere University, close much of those crap so called universities,  open up as many polytechnic colleges as possible, release all prisoners from all jails for much of their cases are flimsy and then arrest a good number of movements who have killed our people in the name of Konny. But do not forget one thing, Just kill Museveni, for the sake of it.
 
Wow he thinks out loud.
 
I think let us get a national language it is better for now we will solve our problems.
Em
       The Mulindwas communication group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:31 PM
Subject: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] More on language

Netters,

Personally, I think UPE is  an unmitigated complete waste of of money, at this time, and only serves to highlight Kaguta's myopia and mediocrity. Like all white-elephant projects, it has its beneficiaries. But, that  is another story.

 It is pure fantasy for ne to even dream that " UPE to succeed so it can produce functionally literate graduates (hopefully) in  English". In fact, I think that ostriches will fly before this happens.

 As for English, national languages, etc I think the forum is simply misguided, very badly too. We are just wasting time. 

 A stupid and/or illogical idea in Luganda, is still a stupid and/or illogical idea in English, and also -- surprisingly -- even in Swahili. I suspect that the same may be true, if the language happened to be Mandarin or even French. What an astounding idea!

 I do not see how the ability to insulting each other in Swahili is going to help us. We are doing fine in English.

This might come as a surprise to some, but the fact is that there is no language on earth or anywhere else -- not even in heaven for those who believe in Judeo-Xtian myths, that will ever do anything about our poor  (inter-tribal) relations, suspicions, jealousies, pettiness, etc. About the only exceptions to this simple truism, are folks who live on mars or some other dreamland. 

 Again I ask, why do we need a national language?  Is it worth it to continue spinning our wheels on this? Or is it that we just like rubber cookies?

 Some souls have this silly notion that,  if we speak Swahili, all of sudden we'll be able to trade with each other, just like that, as if by magic.  I do not know where or how such naivety arises. There is absolutely no emperical evidence to support it, not even a scintilla -- other than an incapacitating dose of wishful thinking and pipe-dreams.  Little wonder that just about any idiot can rule Uganda for donkey's years!

Who or what says that at this time trade between Kenya and Uganda or Uganda and TZ is hampered because Ugandans do not have Swahili as their national language or cannot speak Swahili? Or even that Kenya and TZ are doing roaring trade (on which poor Uganda is necessarily missing out) because they both speak Swahili?

Does anyone on this forum know that right after the collapse of the EA Community, the two SWAHILI speaking countries and former partners -- Kenya & TZ -- closed their borders to each other, and that this went on for YEARS? What had happened to this magical Swahili then?

 If Swahili, why not Lingala (a Bantu Language, with no hatred baggage, that's likely be popular in ie E & Central Africa)?

 ssemakula

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"WB Kyijomanyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 wrote:
 

Mr. Odong:

 

Pray for UPE to succeed so it can produce functionally literate graduates (hopefully) in  English, the official language of instruction.  If that happens then English could become both the official and national language but do not count on it.

The assumption being that all Ugandan children will go to school, learn english under UPE and then the wishes of those who favour a national language will be met.  You should therefore concentrate your efforts on making UPE work for all. 

But even if that were to happen (sadly it won't) we would still have the Kenyan situation  Matovu's dreams notwishstanding.

Do you think English has helped to move us closer to unity as a country? Is it not true that the chaps who are actually detribalized are those who can't speak English? Is it not true that the elite, the english speakers are the ones who incite those folks against their fellow ugandans?  You go to Owino /St. Balikudembe market, or any local brew joint be it in Mbuya, Masese, Kabale, Mbale or Gulu and you will find Ugandans from all over the country happily sipping away their brew without much thought to where one comes from. They are happy together, but then enter the english or swahili speaking types and hell breaks loose.  That happened in Kenya under Moi's watch in the now infamous "ethnic cleansing" clashes, clashes I may add were fully backed by the Moi regime.  Infact some of the leading proponents were Cabinet Ministers.

Don't you find it paradoxical that the elites, us, the english speaking types are the ones working against the unity of the country?  If that is true and it is, what then would be the merits of a national language?  What will a national language do what English the official language (the national language of the elite) has failed to do in Uganda?

Over to you.

Kyijomanyi


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