Mr. LM,
Sometimes you outdo even yourself! Who said anything about training snakes or crocodiles?
In the 1980's the recently retired Moi of Kenya used to employ the very same tactics on his opponents rith in downtown Nairobi - in Nyati House.
Now, what is a "confession" obtained in such a fashion worth?
ps: would you happen to know the genesis of the name 'Lutimba'?
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:36:23 -0800 (PST)
Netters,
Do you really believe this story? How can one train a
snake and a crocodile to torture a human being? This
is pure fantasy, and only fools believe this and even
waste time to comment on it.
The movement government has more important things to
do like stoping Kony mayhem than waste time unleashing
snakes and croco's on opponents.
LM
--- J Ssemakula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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Museveni's "clear-headed" government is the greatest
danger to democracy and freedom in Uganda today. In
its use of torture and wanton abuse of human rights
-- in addition to total disregard of the provisions of
it's own Constitution -- there is no difference
between it and the regimes of Obote and Amin.
Totalitarianism by any name, e.g. Movement, is still
plain old dictatorship.
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Subject: ugnet_: Security use snakes to force
confession Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:00:24 EST
Security use snakes to force confessions By Ssemujju
Ibrahim Nganda MPs claim even crocodiles used Security
organs are using snakes and crocodiles to make treason
suspects confess, Parliament heard yesterday. The
treatment of suspects detained in alleged torture
chambers dominated debate as Parliament resumed work
from a long Christmas and New Year holiday. Kashari MP
John Kazoora informed the House that he had received
reports that suspects are dumped into cages of snakes
and crocodiles. “As Parliament, we must do
something,” Mr. Kazoora said. Holding a copy of the
latest Uganda Human Rights Commission magazine,
Kazoora drew the attention of Speaker Edward Ssekandi
to “unconstitutional arrests and detentions that
happened during the recess”. His submission was
supported by Tororo County MP Geoffrey Ekanya. Mr.
Ekanya began on rather a low tone but turned angry and
spoke with a lot of energy when it came to arrests. He
said most of the people arrested belong to the Reform
Agenda, a political pressure group formed by
supporters of former presidential candidate Kizza
Besigye. A visibly furious Mr. Ekanya said in some
cases, the suspects' private parts are exposed before
they are tortured. Makindye East MP Michael Mabikke
got on to a rather bad start when Aruu MP Odonga Otto
suggested disciplinary action against him for bragging
about “ interfering” in Kenya elections. Mr.
Mabikke redeemed himself when he addressed himself to
the issue of torture that is allegedly going on in the
‘safe houses’. Mr. Mabikke said Ugandans had hope
in the Movement and that it is very unfortunate that
the regime is slowly following in the footsteps of
former president Idi Amin. “It has surpassed¼,”
chorused some MPs. Mr. Mabikke spoilt things for
himself again when he alleged that the 23 percent
budget cut from ministry budgets was used to buy
snakes and crocodiles. Minister of Defence Amama
Mbabazi raised a point of order and asked Speaker
Ssekandi whether Mr. Mabikke was in order to allege
that the extra budget provision extended to the
Defence ministry was for establishing cages and to
fill them with snakes. Mr. Mabikke replied by telling
Mr. Mbabazi that most “of these things happened when
the minister was busy in Kinkizi West campaigning
against himself”. Mr. Mbabazi’s supporters in
Parliament got angry with Mr. Mabikke, and the first
to protest with a point of order was Victoria
Sebagereka (Kayunga). Because no ruling had been made
about Mr. Mbabazi’s earlier point of order, hers was
simply ignored. Mr. Isa Kikungwe (Kyaddondo South)
came to the rescue of his Democratic Party colleague
and said Lt. Dan Mugarura had the worst of his life
during detention. He said Lt. Mugarura remained
blindfolded for four nights before his tormentor
unleashed red ants unto him. He said the man was
finally ushered into a room with big snakes ready to
bite and he accepted working with Besigye. Mr. Mbabazi
denied that such things were happening. He said
although he doesn’ t believe in the story, he would
investigate it. National Political Commissar Dr.
Crispus Kiyonga said he was in touch with some senior
Reform Agenda activists and that they admit that some
of their members support violence. February 12, 2003
12:41:50
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