From: Ochan Otim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:47:40 -0700
Mr. Emmanuel Musaazi:
You wrote:
>Mr. Ochan's article did not have a source
I thought the first statement in my article was very clear about this:
<<<<Translated from Rupiny Wednesday, 30th July, 2003>>>>
Rupiny is published by New Vision. Mr. Musaazi, next time you are on the New Vision web site, look for the link to Rupiny somewhere on top of the page. I acknowledge that I may not to help here if, as Mr. Njoki pointed out, you are using my posting as a cover up:
>>I sincerely hope Mr. Musaazi that it is not the article itself you are not
>>confortable with and just using the language issue as a cover-up.
Ochan
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At 01:05 PM 8/2/03 -0500, you wrote:
>All i'm saying is that we should stick to one standard of representing
>information on this forum, so that attention is only given to the content of
>postings. Mr. Ochan's article did not have a source, so the content is not
>varifiable....therefore the translated version would have sufficed, besides
>i think we can all trust each other at this level, can't we?
>
>>From: Paul Njoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government
>>Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:34:42 +0200 (SAST)
>>
>>I don't understand the language at the very bottom of this posting, but I
>>have
>>a feeling that was is on top, that you Mr. Musaazi responded to, is a
>>translation of whatever was in the original article. Let me get this clear.
>>Are
>>you Mr. Musaazi implying that anything which is not originally written in
>>english should never find its way onto Ugandanet, even where a translation
>>is
>>included?!
>>
>>I guess the purpose of attaching the original article is to enable anyone
>>who
>>understands the vernatular in which the original article was written to
>>verify
>>that the translation given is a true representation of what was originally
>>written/said in the original article.
>>
>>Would it be a consolation Mr. Musaazi, if I told you that I also don't
>>understand the original article but I'm happy with the translation
>>especially
>>since no one has challenged it?
>>
>>I sincerely hope Mr. Musaazi that it is not the article itself you are not
>>confortable with and just using the language issue as a cover-up.
>>
>>Nice weekend.
>>
>>Quoting emmanuel musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> > Netters, can we all agree that the use of vernacular should be reduced
>> > or
>> > prohibited....i don't see the use of putting up postings that are not
>> > comprehensible to every Ugandan....we are Ugandans and the official
>> > language
>> > of Uganda is english.....and please this is not meant to reduce or in
>> > any
>> > way shape or form diminish the seriousness of Mr. Ochan's article. I
>> > have
>> > been discouraging people from using luganda when responding to me. The
>> > use
>> > of vernacular is tolerable if it is one or two words but beyond that it
>> >
>> > becomes discomfiting to some of us who do not understand.
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: Ochan Otim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >Subject: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government
>> > >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:54:52 -0700
>> > >
>> > >Translated from Rupiny Wednesday, 30th July, 2003
>> >
>>
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>>----
>> > >Gulu Plans to Sue Government over murder
>> > >Murder
>> > >
>> > >Odwong Wod Ayo
>> > >
>> > >Gulu District Council has voted to take the government to court over
>> > the
>> > >destructive murder that the UPDF have committing in Gulu. Gulu
>> > Chairman,
>> > >Lt. Col. Ochora has requested religious leaders in Gulu District to
>> > provide
>> > >the district attorney with the names of everyone murdered and the
>> > places
>> > >where these murders occurred so that legal action can be initiated
>> > against
>> > >the government.
>> > >
>> > >"Many UPDF soldiers have shot people in their own homes. The
>> > population is
>> > >very upset that these murderers are still roaming the streets", Lalolgi
>> >
>> > >Councillor Ben Acellam told the members.
>> > >
>> > >The Gulu DLC resolved to take the 'big' government (meaning GOU) to
>> > court
>> > >on behalf of their kins who have been murdered by UPDF soldiers.
>> > >
>> > >One the other hand, Arthur Okot writes that Odoch Athi LC 5 councillor
>> > of
>> > >Pabbo sub county informs that UPDF soldiers reached Akonyi Bedo PS
>> > school
>> > >and caused destruction.
>> > >
>> > >Other crimes that Rupiny has unearthed is that there is a man in
>> > Bungatira
>> > >sub-county who was tied up with a rope for three days until his hands
>> > began
>> > >to rot: his hand were amputated later in the hospital.
>> > >
>> > >Lalub RDC Semei Okwir said that there other crimes which are have been
>> >
>> > >committed but not on behalf of the government. He added that these
>> > >soldiers are being delt with under the law.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Bal mukene ma Rupiny onongo ni laco mo ma mony Bungatira sub-county
>> > otweyo
>> > >ki tol pi nino adek ci bade otop ka kingolo woko ki i ot yat.
>> > >Lalub RDC Semei Okwir otito ni tye bal mukene ma mony timo ento nongo
>> > pe
>> > >obedo miti pa gamente. En otito ni mony magi bene gitye ka tero gi ite
>> > cik.
>> > >
>> > >Gulu mito doto gamente pi nek aranyi
>> > >
>> > >Odwong Wod Ayo
>> > >
>> > >GULU District Council otyeko moko ni omyero distrik odot gamente pi nek
>> >
>> > >mogo me aranyi ma lumony UPDF guneko kwede dano i Gulu. Wonkom me Gulu,
>> > Lt.
>> > >Col. Ochora otito ni omyero lukancila ducu me Gulu distrik gukel nying
>> > dano
>> > >ma kineko gi ki kabedo ma kineko gi iye ka wek kimi lapilida pa distrik
>> > pi
>> > >doto gamente.
>> > >
>> > >Lumony pa UPDF tyen mapol gucelo dano ki muduku wa ito ma man omiyo pol
>> >
>> > >dano cwiny gi pe yom me neno jo ma oneko dano gi woto ata, Ben Acellam
>> > me
>> > >Lalogi otito ki lumemba.
>> > >
>> > >Lumemba me Gulu DLC gumoko lumuko me doto gamente madit pi dano gi ma
>> >
>> > >lumony UPDF oneko.
>> > >
>> > >Kitungcel bene Arthur Okot coyo ni Odoch Athi LC 5 kancila me Pabbo sub
>> >
>> > >county bene otito ni mony UPDF gutunu gang kwan me Akonyi Bedo PS ka
>> > gutimo
>> > >aranyi iye.
>> > >
>> > >Bal mukene ma Rupiny onongo ni laco mo ma mony Bungatira sub-county
>> > otweyo
>> > >ki tol pi nino adek ci bade otop ka kingolo woko ki i ot yat.
>> > >Lalub RDC Semei Okwir otito ni tye bal mukene ma mony timo ento nongo
>> > pe
>> > >obedo miti pa gamente. En otito ni mony magi bene gitye ka tero gi ite
>> > cik.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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