Mwaami Musaazi
Thank you at least for being open, for you are more than many Ugandans we
see in these forums. You have the ability to see what gets on your nerve and
you bring it forward and front. Your problem was posting the piece which was
from the Rupiny language, for that language, did not have a place in the
forum/s, and if I was the one who posted it I would have apologized to
Mwaami Musaazi for committing such a heinous crime and we move on.
To Ugandans, we must learn to live with each other, Mwaami Muzaazi does not
want the Rupiny language posted in the forum/s, can we please abide
accordingly?
Thank you all for your Ugandan understanding.
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
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----- Original Message -----
From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government
> ...well i thought Rupiny was the language from which the article was
> translated from...if that is the case then it still makes my point that
> there was no need to post the vernacular version since anyone who had
doubts
> could verify from the original source.....i have nothing against what you
> posted if anything it is a sign that Uganda and Ugandans have matured to
the
> point where ordinary people can sue the government, i view that as a
> positive development...i'm not as political as you would want to believe.
>
>
> >From: Ochan Otim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government
> >Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:47:40 -0700
> >
> >Mr. Emmanuel Musaazi:
> >
> >You wrote:
> >
> > >Mr. Ochan's article did not have a source
> >
> >
> >I thought the first statement in my article was very clear about this:
> >
> ><<<<Translated from Rupiny Wednesday, 30th July, 2003>>>>
> >
> >Rupiny is published by New Vision. Mr. Musaazi, next time you are on
the
> >New Vision web site, look for the link to Rupiny somewhere on top of the
> >page. I acknowledge that I may not to help here if, as Mr. Njoki pointed
> >out, you are using my posting as a cover up:
> >
> > >>I sincerely hope Mr. Musaazi that it is not the article itself you are
> >not
> > >>confortable with and just using the language issue as a cover-up.
> >
> >Ochan
> >----------------------------------------------
> >At 01:05 PM 8/2/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > >All i'm saying is that we should stick to one standard of representing
> > >information on this forum, so that attention is only given to the
content
> >of
> > >postings. Mr. Ochan's article did not have a source, so the content is
> >not
> > >varifiable....therefore the translated version would have sufficed,
> >besides
> > >i think we can all trust each other at this level, can't we?
> > >
> > >>From: Paul Njoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Subject: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government
> > >>Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:34:42 +0200 (SAST)
> > >>
> > >>I don't understand the language at the very bottom of this posting,
but
> >I
> > >>have
> > >>a feeling that was is on top, that you Mr. Musaazi responded to, is a
> > >>translation of whatever was in the original article. Let me get this
> >clear.
> > >>Are
> > >>you Mr. Musaazi implying that anything which is not originally written
> >in
> > >>english should never find its way onto Ugandanet, even where a
> >translation
> > >>is
> > >>included?!
> > >>
> > >>I guess the purpose of attaching the original article is to enable
> >anyone
> > >>who
> > >>understands the vernatular in which the original article was written
to
> > >>verify
> > >>that the translation given is a true representation of what was
> >originally
> > >>written/said in the original article.
> > >>
> > >>Would it be a consolation Mr. Musaazi, if I told you that I also don't
> > >>understand the original article but I'm happy with the translation
> > >>especially
> > >>since no one has challenged it?
> > >>
> > >>I sincerely hope Mr. Musaazi that it is not the article itself you are
> >not
> > >>confortable with and just using the language issue as a cover-up.
> > >>
> > >>Nice weekend.
> > >>
> > >>Quoting emmanuel musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >>
> > >> > Netters, can we all agree that the use of vernacular should be
> >reduced
> > >> > or
> > >> > prohibited....i don't see the use of putting up postings that are
not
> > >> > comprehensible to every Ugandan....we are Ugandans and the official
> > >> > language
> > >> > of Uganda is english.....and please this is not meant to reduce or
in
> > >> > any
> > >> > way shape or form diminish the seriousness of Mr. Ochan's article.
I
> > >> > have
> > >> > been discouraging people from using luganda when responding to me.
> >The
> > >> > use
> > >> > of vernacular is tolerable if it is one or two words but beyond
that
> >it
> > >> >
> > >> > becomes discomfiting to some of us who do not understand.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > >From: Ochan Otim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > >Subject: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government
> > >> > >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:54:52 -0700
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Translated from Rupiny Wednesday, 30th July, 2003
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>----
> > >> > >Gulu Plans to Sue Government over murder
> > >> > >Murder
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Odwong Wod Ayo
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Gulu District Council has voted to take the government to court
over
> > >> > the
> > >> > >destructive murder that the UPDF have committing in Gulu. Gulu
> > >> > Chairman,
> > >> > >Lt. Col. Ochora has requested religious leaders in Gulu District
to
> > >> > provide
> > >> > >the district attorney with the names of everyone murdered and the
> > >> > places
> > >> > >where these murders occurred so that legal action can be initiated
> > >> > against
> > >> > >the government.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >"Many UPDF soldiers have shot people in their own homes. The
> > >> > population is
> > >> > >very upset that these murderers are still roaming the streets",
> >Lalolgi
> > >> >
> > >> > >Councillor Ben Acellam told the members.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >The Gulu DLC resolved to take the 'big' government (meaning GOU)
to
> > >> > court
> > >> > >on behalf of their kins who have been murdered by UPDF soldiers.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >One the other hand, Arthur Okot writes that Odoch Athi LC 5
> >councillor
> > >> > of
> > >> > >Pabbo sub county informs that UPDF soldiers reached Akonyi Bedo PS
> > >> > school
> > >> > >and caused destruction.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Other crimes that Rupiny has unearthed is that there is a man in
> > >> > Bungatira
> > >> > >sub-county who was tied up with a rope for three days until his
> >hands
> > >> > began
> > >> > >to rot: his hand were amputated later in the hospital.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Lalub RDC Semei Okwir said that there other crimes which are have
> >been
> > >> >
> > >> > >committed but not on behalf of the government. He added that
these
> > >> > >soldiers are being delt with under the law.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Bal mukene ma Rupiny onongo ni laco mo ma mony Bungatira
sub-county
> > >> > otweyo
> > >> > >ki tol pi nino adek ci bade otop ka kingolo woko ki i ot yat.
> > >> > >Lalub RDC Semei Okwir otito ni tye bal mukene ma mony timo ento
> >nongo
> > >> > pe
> > >> > >obedo miti pa gamente. En otito ni mony magi bene gitye ka tero gi
> >ite
> > >> > cik.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Gulu mito doto gamente pi nek aranyi
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Odwong Wod Ayo
> > >> > >
> > >> > >GULU District Council otyeko moko ni omyero distrik odot gamente
pi
> >nek
> > >> >
> > >> > >mogo me aranyi ma lumony UPDF guneko kwede dano i Gulu. Wonkom me
> >Gulu,
> > >> > Lt.
> > >> > >Col. Ochora otito ni omyero lukancila ducu me Gulu distrik gukel
> >nying
> > >> > dano
> > >> > >ma kineko gi ki kabedo ma kineko gi iye ka wek kimi lapilida pa
> >distrik
> > >> > pi
> > >> > >doto gamente.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Lumony pa UPDF tyen mapol gucelo dano ki muduku wa ito ma man
omiyo
> >pol
> > >> >
> > >> > >dano cwiny gi pe yom me neno jo ma oneko dano gi woto ata, Ben
> >Acellam
> > >> > me
> > >> > >Lalogi otito ki lumemba.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Lumemba me Gulu DLC gumoko lumuko me doto gamente madit pi dano gi
> >ma
> > >> >
> > >> > >lumony UPDF oneko.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Kitungcel bene Arthur Okot coyo ni Odoch Athi LC 5 kancila me
Pabbo
> >sub
> > >> >
> > >> > >county bene otito ni mony UPDF gutunu gang kwan me Akonyi Bedo PS
ka
> > >> > gutimo
> > >> > >aranyi iye.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Bal mukene ma Rupiny onongo ni laco mo ma mony Bungatira
sub-county
> > >> > otweyo
> > >> > >ki tol pi nino adek ci bade otop ka kingolo woko ki i ot yat.
> > >> > >Lalub RDC Semei Okwir otito ni tye bal mukene ma mony timo ento
> >nongo
> > >> > pe
> > >> > >obedo miti pa gamente. En otito ni mony magi bene gitye ka tero gi
> >ite
> > >> > cik.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
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