emmanuel musaazi, For Intellectual giants and in the free, world where the truth goes with source and proof etc etc, i say it was the right thing to do!
Toro ----- Original Message ----- From: emmanuel musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:16 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government > ...well i thought Rupiny was the language from which the article was > translated from...if that is the case then it still makes my point that > there was no need to post the vernacular version since anyone who had doubts > could verify from the original source.....i have nothing against what you > posted if anything it is a sign that Uganda and Ugandans have matured to the > point where ordinary people can sue the government, i view that as a > positive development...i'm not as political as you would want to believe. > > > >From: Ochan Otim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government > >Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:47:40 -0700 > > > >Mr. Emmanuel Musaazi: > > > >You wrote: > > > > >Mr. Ochan's article did not have a source > > > > > >I thought the first statement in my article was very clear about this: > > > ><<<<Translated from Rupiny Wednesday, 30th July, 2003>>>> > > > >Rupiny is published by New Vision. Mr. Musaazi, next time you are on the > >New Vision web site, look for the link to Rupiny somewhere on top of the > >page. I acknowledge that I may not to help here if, as Mr. Njoki pointed > >out, you are using my posting as a cover up: > > > > >>I sincerely hope Mr. Musaazi that it is not the article itself you are > >not > > >>confortable with and just using the language issue as a cover-up. > > > >Ochan > >---------------------------------------------- > >At 01:05 PM 8/2/03 -0500, you wrote: > > >All i'm saying is that we should stick to one standard of representing > > >information on this forum, so that attention is only given to the content > >of > > >postings. Mr. Ochan's article did not have a source, so the content is > >not > > >varifiable....therefore the translated version would have sufficed, > >besides > > >i think we can all trust each other at this level, can't we? > > > > > >>From: Paul Njoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>Subject: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government > > >>Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:34:42 +0200 (SAST) > > >> > > >>I don't understand the language at the very bottom of this posting, but > >I > > >>have > > >>a feeling that was is on top, that you Mr. Musaazi responded to, is a > > >>translation of whatever was in the original article. Let me get this > >clear. > > >>Are > > >>you Mr. Musaazi implying that anything which is not originally written > >in > > >>english should never find its way onto Ugandanet, even where a > >translation > > >>is > > >>included?! > > >> > > >>I guess the purpose of attaching the original article is to enable > >anyone > > >>who > > >>understands the vernatular in which the original article was written to > > >>verify > > >>that the translation given is a true representation of what was > >originally > > >>written/said in the original article. > > >> > > >>Would it be a consolation Mr. Musaazi, if I told you that I also don't > > >>understand the original article but I'm happy with the translation > > >>especially > > >>since no one has challenged it? > > >> > > >>I sincerely hope Mr. Musaazi that it is not the article itself you are > >not > > >>confortable with and just using the language issue as a cover-up. > > >> > > >>Nice weekend. > > >> > > >>Quoting emmanuel musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> > > >> > Netters, can we all agree that the use of vernacular should be > >reduced > > >> > or > > >> > prohibited....i don't see the use of putting up postings that are not > > >> > comprehensible to every Ugandan....we are Ugandans and the official > > >> > language > > >> > of Uganda is english.....and please this is not meant to reduce or in > > >> > any > > >> > way shape or form diminish the seriousness of Mr. Ochan's article. I > > >> > have > > >> > been discouraging people from using luganda when responding to me. > >The > > >> > use > > >> > of vernacular is tolerable if it is one or two words but beyond that > >it > > >> > > > >> > becomes discomfiting to some of us who do not understand. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >From: Ochan Otim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > >Subject: ugnet_: Murder: Gulu Plans to Sue Government > > >> > >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:54:52 -0700 > > >> > > > > >> > >Translated from Rupiny Wednesday, 30th July, 2003 > > >> > > > >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > >>---- > > >> > >Gulu Plans to Sue Government over murder > > >> > >Murder > > >> > > > > >> > >Odwong Wod Ayo > > >> > > > > >> > >Gulu District Council has voted to take the government to court over > > >> > the > > >> > >destructive murder that the UPDF have committing in Gulu. Gulu > > >> > Chairman, > > >> > >Lt. Col. Ochora has requested religious leaders in Gulu District to > > >> > provide > > >> > >the district attorney with the names of everyone murdered and the > > >> > places > > >> > >where these murders occurred so that legal action can be initiated > > >> > against > > >> > >the government. > > >> > > > > >> > >"Many UPDF soldiers have shot people in their own homes. The > > >> > population is > > >> > >very upset that these murderers are still roaming the streets", > >Lalolgi > > >> > > > >> > >Councillor Ben Acellam told the members. > > >> > > > > >> > >The Gulu DLC resolved to take the 'big' government (meaning GOU) to > > >> > court > > >> > >on behalf of their kins who have been murdered by UPDF soldiers. > > >> > > > > >> > >One the other hand, Arthur Okot writes that Odoch Athi LC 5 > >councillor > > >> > of > > >> > >Pabbo sub county informs that UPDF soldiers reached Akonyi Bedo PS > > >> > school > > >> > >and caused destruction. > > >> > > > > >> > >Other crimes that Rupiny has unearthed is that there is a man in > > >> > Bungatira > > >> > >sub-county who was tied up with a rope for three days until his > >hands > > >> > began > > >> > >to rot: his hand were amputated later in the hospital. > > >> > > > > >> > >Lalub RDC Semei Okwir said that there other crimes which are have > >been > > >> > > > >> > >committed but not on behalf of the government. He added that these > > >> > >soldiers are being delt with under the law. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >Bal mukene ma Rupiny onongo ni laco mo ma mony Bungatira sub-county > > >> > otweyo > > >> > >ki tol pi nino adek ci bade otop ka kingolo woko ki i ot yat. > > >> > >Lalub RDC Semei Okwir otito ni tye bal mukene ma mony timo ento > >nongo > > >> > pe > > >> > >obedo miti pa gamente. En otito ni mony magi bene gitye ka tero gi > >ite > > >> > cik. > > >> > > > > >> > >Gulu mito doto gamente pi nek aranyi > > >> > > > > >> > >Odwong Wod Ayo > > >> > > > > >> > >GULU District Council otyeko moko ni omyero distrik odot gamente pi > >nek > > >> > > > >> > >mogo me aranyi ma lumony UPDF guneko kwede dano i Gulu. Wonkom me > >Gulu, > > >> > Lt. > > >> > >Col. Ochora otito ni omyero lukancila ducu me Gulu distrik gukel > >nying > > >> > dano > > >> > >ma kineko gi ki kabedo ma kineko gi iye ka wek kimi lapilida pa > >distrik > > >> > pi > > >> > >doto gamente. > > >> > > > > >> > >Lumony pa UPDF tyen mapol gucelo dano ki muduku wa ito ma man omiyo > >pol > > >> > > > >> > >dano cwiny gi pe yom me neno jo ma oneko dano gi woto ata, Ben > >Acellam > > >> > me > > >> > >Lalogi otito ki lumemba. > > >> > > > > >> > >Lumemba me Gulu DLC gumoko lumuko me doto gamente madit pi dano gi > >ma > > >> > > > >> > >lumony UPDF oneko. > > >> > > > > >> > >Kitungcel bene Arthur Okot coyo ni Odoch Athi LC 5 kancila me Pabbo > >sub > > >> > > > >> > >county bene otito ni mony UPDF gutunu gang kwan me Akonyi Bedo PS ka > > >> > gutimo > > >> > >aranyi iye. > > >> > > > > >> > >Bal mukene ma Rupiny onongo ni laco mo ma mony Bungatira sub-county > > >> > otweyo > > >> > >ki tol pi nino adek ci bade otop ka kingolo woko ki i ot yat. > > >> > >Lalub RDC Semei Okwir otito ni tye bal mukene ma mony timo ento > >nongo > > >> > pe > > >> > >obedo miti pa gamente. En otito ni mony magi bene gitye ka tero gi > >ite > > >> > cik. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > > >> > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > >> > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>\\\\\\\"Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a second > >rate > > >>version of someone else.\\\\\\\\\\\\\" > > >> > > >>Njoki Paul > > >>University of Pretoria > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >
