Lutimba Matovu, The are many victims, survivors & witness who are still in hiding from M7 and the NRM/A, praying for a time when they are safe to talk AND GET JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS!.
They are all over the world, and the longest are from doubt are Baganda. They daily recount the most horrific murders by NRA/M because THEIR PARENTS REFUSED TO GIVE THEM AS CHILDREN TO THE NRA REBELLS, THE WHOLE FAMILY WERE KILLED. HOW MUSEVENI ORDER FATHER TO GIVE THEIR LAND FOR BURYING DEAD BODIES, nOW THE WHOLE FAMILY IS HUNTED NO ONE CAN LIVE ON THE LAND!. MOST VERY TRUMATISE FOR WHAT THEY HAVE SEN AND GONE THROUGH etc etc. If NRA/M thought they never left trial by the destruction, wait till the time comes. Individuals with names and some with photos will scrumble for justice! because they will feel safe to talk without NRA/M tyrants! Not only in Buganda where it all started but Corner Kilak, Acholi, Soroti, Kaberamaido, kanugu to , Rwanda, Congo etc etc. Be prepared you might be call as a witness or even the accused, who knows. It will not be blanket Musevni alone did it because most of the survivors actually knows and was present went the NRA WIPEOUT THEIR FAMILIES. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lutimba Matovu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret Wars and Abuse of Office > Lisa, > > Read the facts for yourself what your hero did to > Ugandans. > > "The second reign of MILTON OBOTE as President of > Uganda (1980-1985) is thought to have even exceeded > the brutality of the Amin era. Estimates of civilians > killed by Obote's forces in the Luwero triangle around > the capital, Kampala, range from 100,000 to 300,000. > Prisoners in military custody were systematically > tortured. After he was deposed in a May 1985 military > coup, he fled and now lives unmolested in Zambia. > > Human Rights Watch Backgrounder, July 2003 > > --- Lisa Toro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brother Semakula, > > > > Did Obote go to the HRM the queen of England to > > plead for arms? Before that Buganda had long used > > guns to gain the Bunyoro Land what later became the > > lost counties, hence the quest for arms from the > > queen to gain back the land!!! > > > > Yours i pathological!! give it a break, you migh > > actually go awii with Obotes name playing in your > > head and mouth!!. Good luck remember the same god is > > for you and Obote. > > > > Toro. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: J Ssemakula > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 5:26 PM > > Subject: RE: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret > > Wars and Abuse of Office > > > > > > Mr. Y: > > > > It is plain as day that Uganda's troubles today > > are firmly rooted in Obote's abuse of power and > > office. It was the UPC and Obote who started Uganda > > on the path of political murder and state inspired > > violence against the populace. > > > > Until and unless we not only accept that simple > > but fundamental truth, and throught understand how > > and why it came to be, we cannot hope to solve our > > most basic problems as a nation: lack of democratic > > governance and lack of respect & protection of human > > rights in Uganda. Only when those two things are in > > place can we meaningfully tackle our second-tier > > problems of poverty, ignorance, etc. > > > > For those reasons, I will not "give it a rest". Of > > course you can always hide your head in the sand as > > the proverbial ostrich, but reality will not change > > to accomodate your wishes. > > > > Ssemakula > > > > > > --- Y Yaobang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > J Ssemakula, > > > > > > Give it a rest, man! > > > > > > Or are you getting paid to divert attention from > > > what is happening in Uganda > > > right now, as we speak, with: > > > * Dictator Museveni's gunships mowing down > > innocent > > > Ugandans in a funeral > > > procession in Teso "mistaking" them for > > 'rebels'? > > > * Dictator Museveni now manipulating his way to > > life > > > presidency, > > > sugar-coating it with federo (buying-off > > gullible > > > Baganda like you)?? > > > > > > Or are you waiting to revise the dictaor's > > history? > > > > > > > > > y > > > >From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > & gt;Subject: RE: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's > > Secret > > > Wars and Abuse of Office > > > >Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:50:42 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 > > months > > > FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > > > From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret > > Wars > > > and Abuse of Office > > > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:50:42 +0000 > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Mr. Kipenji, > > > > Provide facts: if you have any credible > > documentation about Obote providing Mandela with a > > passport by all means provide it, instead of > > grand-standing. > > > > However, even if it were true, I fail to see how > > this would redeem that barbarian. > > > > --- Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mwaami Ssemakula,did Nelson Mandela also state > > that > > > the first > > > travel document(Passport) that he used to travel > > > outside South > > > Africa et Africa was a Ugandan passport that was > > > recommended > > > by this samesome Obote?. > > > Lets always talk facts not figments of our > > > imaginations that obscure > > > whatever we really want to say for we are wont > > to > > > expose our rabid loathe > > > of someone. > > > Thanks. > > > Kipenji. > > > > > > =========================================================== > > > > > > J Ssemakula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Mr. Fugee, > > > > > > I see that you have no substantive rebuttal to > > Mr. > > > Ibingira's expose' of Obote as a conniving > > > power-hungry megalomaniac. > > > > > > As fo r t he bit about Obote's attempts to bar > > the ANC > > > from the OAU's pre-cursor, it is from an > > impeachabe > > > source: Mr. Mandela himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > From: "The Fugee" > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: > > > Subject: RE: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret > > Wars > > > and Abuse of Office > > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:33:52 +0200 > > > > > > Ssemakula, > > > > > > Many of us have decided to leave you to your > > rabid > > > hatred of Obote. You > > > seem to be so confused by your hatred that you > > would > > > absolve everyone, > > > including yourself, of any responsibility in > > > ensuring that Ugandans and > > > Uganda gets what it truly deserves. As such I > > find > > > it very difficult to > > > even begin to discuss or debate any matter as > > you > > > have concluded where > > > all blame should lie. Th ou gh I must confess > > that I > > > have seriously > > > thought about tackling an issue raised by you > > > through Ibingira's > > > writings and time willing I may still do so. > > > > > > The real question is: What have you done and > > what > > > are you doing for a > > > truly democratic Uganda where all citizens have > > and > > > can enjoy their God > > > given personal to holder fundamental human > > rights > > > and freedoms? > > > > > > The Fugee > > > > > > PS "Why did he try to have Mandela and the ANC > > -- > > > which he termed a > > > "tribal organization" -- banned from attending > > the > > > OAU's precursor > > > meeting in Addis Ababa? Who were/are Obote's > > masters > > > whose interests he > > > worked so hard to uphold?" > > > Where did this come from? > > > === message truncated === > > > ===== > LM > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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