Matek do you realize that Mulindwa and co are members of your party and that they are Baganda (or maybe you know something about them that we don't). You seem to give the impression that the UPC is a northern party and all those who don't agree with it are not Ugandan enough. I hope the Mulindwa's of this world are listening, it appears that Matek may not think that Mulindwa is good enough for the UPC (he is not northern enough). But then again Mulindwa has a role to play in the UPC (which he is doing very well) decieve/cajole Baganda into the party, use Baganda to get northerner UPC members (the real UPC members) back into power. Thank you Matek for letting us know.
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Subject: Re: Fw: ugnet_: 72 year old man wants Mu7 to pay back his lorry.(I hope like ...
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:34:42 EDT
In a message dated 9/22/2003 1:51:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Miss Toro, i agree there is always two sides to a story. True the NRM may
> have been guilty of some wrong doings in Luwero, if you ask me, that is to
> be expected, no military campaign is perfect, if you know of any around the
> world please let me know. However the overall campaign of the NRM was
> supported by majority of the country ( meaning the buganda, Tutisis
> Byanrwanda) and that is why they succeeded.
It > would have been totally impossible for the NRM to succeed without the
> popular support of the masses, this is common sense other wise the masses
> (particularly in Luwero) would have exposed the rebels, the rebels would not
>
> have been able to have bases within Uganda. (Why does our friend say Uganda
> instead Buganda..even then in Luwero district. is this a calculate move to
> decieve us or what?)
The question then is, what > caused the masses ( meaning the Buganda) to give
> such support to the NRM? and the answer is simple, the government of the day
> failed woefully.
Miss Toro for your information i > am a Muganda, i know what happened in
> Luwero, my mother comes from Luwero, i don't want to go into the graphic details
> of the attrocities committed by the army at the time and if i wanted i could
> easily blame it all on northern soldiers and politicians because i saw and
> experienced the crimes and it is realy quite sad that you are comparing the
> attrocities committed by the
> soldiers at the time to the theft of a truck.( and that is why like Yoga
> stated... the buganda went to the North to revenge against the ABADDOKOLO for
> the suppose atrocities the ABBADDOKO COMMITTED AGAINST the BUganda in
> Luwero)
I am however of the impression > that army (then) failed it's citizens,
> because the politicians failed and the politicians failed because UPC failed. Had
> it been that Ugandans ( actually the Buganda) at the time were contented
> and satisfied with the government of the day, the NRM would never ever have
> had the success they had.
>
> Miss Toro, i believe in principled politics. The UPC and those of you who
> love it should admit that something went wrong (or is wrong) with the party
> and that is why Ugandans( meaning the Buganda) rejected it.
Principled politicians and supporters > will then admit the wrongs, change > course and present a changed party with new ideas (and leadership) and > directions. But alas and behold that is not what i see from you guys.
You guys are rather holding on to old failed > principles, the basis of
> your arguments is basically that the UPC was doing fine until the NRM came
> along. What you are basically doing is belittling atrocities and the crimes
> committed on Ugandas (particularly in Luwero) by the then government of the day
> which was UPC and refusing to take responsibility for the parties failures.
You keep on taking a few stories > out of Luwero which are the exception
> rather than the norm, blow them out of proportion and then put your own spin on
> them. Then after showing no remorse for the crimes your party was responsible
> for when it was in power, you turn around and highlight how the poeple in the
> north are suffering and how other
> groups (particularly the Baganda) are not showing enough concern.
You seem > to be saying well it is ok for Bagand blood to flow while that of
> northerners is sacred, yet far more attrocities were committed by the UPC in
>
> Luwero and other parts of southwest Uganda than all the 18 years of Kony's
> tyranny and of course we should remember that Kony is largely responsible
> for the problems in northern Uganda. No government worth it's salt will fold
>
> it's arms allow terrorism of the type exerted by Kony to go on unchallenged,
>
> we all know of Britain and Northern Island, Spain and the ETA, etc. (but
> then again "no military campaign is perfect, if you know of any around the
> world please let me know.
>
> You need to realize Miss Toro that Ugandans are wiser and have a deeper
> understanding of their politics than before. It's not just about what you
> say but the way you say it and the implications for the future. It is said
> that once bitten twice shy, it will be stupid of Ugandans to fall for the
> same trick twice particularly by people who virtually tell you to your face
> that you are stupid and who have not learnt from their mistakes or refuse to
>
> learn from their mistake.
>
> E. Musaazi
>
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