Hullo, Whose grandmother named him that you all doubt that his name is Edward Milindwa? That is proof of NRA/M confusion in deception that they think everyone go by lies and deception like them!!!!
Own up Toro ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: OMWAAMI KIRONDE > "Mulindwa" - Come on, own up - is your true name really Mulindwa????? Why > shun your roots mate? No good at all. Come out in the open, say who you are > exactly and defend your kin and keith with a clear conscious that you are > not concealing your true identity and that you've denounced and apologised > for the Ganda disguise and impersonation so as to conviniently malign the > Baganda. Unless and until you do that and continue to call yourself > "Mulindwa", your wild claim to being upright will remain just that - a wild > claim, and those of us who know you shall continue to hold you in utter > contempt. Your kin, on the other hand, will never forgive you for the > failure to positively aknowledge your roots and join them in an open > struggle in your true identity. > Dada > > > >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: ugnet_: OMWAAMI KIRONDE > >Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:57:48 -0500 > > > >Kironde > > > >I am just wondering, why did you think that this might be Mulindwa? And the > >only reason I am asking such a question, is that you as a man who has been > >in this forum for years you would know that I am a person who never post > >any thing under fake names for I post it for I believe in it. I post it for > >I will defend it. I post it for if it will be wrong I will take the blame. > >But most of all I post it for I do not follow the wind, like today UPC is > >in power so I am pro UPC, Museveni is in power, so I am a Movememntist, out > >of the blue I am pro North. That is why I always use my real name, Edward > >Mulindwa, for if I was such an opportunistic, I would have used fake names > >like Kasangwawo or even Mitayo Potosi for that matter. Kironde ask me do > >not bother with IP address. > > > >Again as Usual > >Edward Mulindwa > >Toronto > > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ed Kironde > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 1:38 AM > > Subject: RE: ugnet_: Fwd: thug Museveni is WANTED dead or alive! - The > >role of Federalism > > > > > > Ocham Otim > > > > In addition to your observation, when you do a trecert of the IP > >address, the moderator is a subscriber to British Telcom - and uses a > >dial-up connection since the last octet keeps on changing. One of the > >names that came out though, was Joram, who claimed to be from Kabale when > >he signed the UPDF Ironfist guest book and put a link to this anarchism > >thing. Signed with a Swahili phrase Tutatawatuliyha! Other threads lead > >you to the forum of Radio Rhino to which Edward Mulindwa is an ardent > >contributor. First I thought it was Mulindwa's baby, but the first octet > >of his IP parent net look.ca normally starts with 216. - later guys! > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > >Of Ochan Otim > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:18 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: ugnet_: Fwd: thug Museveni is WANTED dead or alive! - The role > >of Federalism > > > > > > > > Rehema: > > > > I am not sure about the ownership of the web site you provided. I have > >my doubts based on two observations on visiting the site. One, there are > >only 12 members as per the web address. This kind of list, as those who > >are familiar with it will testify, allows all kinds of flexibility to the > >creator - including stuffing its membership with bogus e-mail addresses to > >swell their ranks. Which brings me to number two: 22 of the 27 messages > >posted on the site since its creation appears to come from > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] the administrative address for the group. > >This seems to bolster my suspicion. Is this a "one-man" show? In any > >case, why are some of the messages deleted (e.g. #2, 3-4, etc.)? > > > > I could be wrong (and do help me out here), but I do not know why I feel > >that buried in your interpretation of the messages on the site is the all > >too familiar stereotypical generalization we have heard all to often to > >justify the lackluster response the whole country gave to the genocide > >happening in northern Uganda. However one looks at it, the "northern" is > >still part of Uganda for now and Uganda must deal with the problems in the > >north. > > > > Ochan Otim > > > > At 02:09 AM 11/15/2003 +0000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This note is written by Rehema Mukooza. Since all of us are struggling > >to find some solutions to Uganda's problems, I thought it useful to share > >with everyone. > > > > >From: Rehema Mukooza > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > >[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: thug Museveni is WANTED dead or alive! - The role of > >Federalism > > >Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:25:13 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Fellow Federalists: > > > > > >I found this interesting discussion group on the net. Please check it > >out below. > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ugandanarchism Are these lies or facts?! > >Okay, y'all know where I got your email addresses from [fedsnet]. Let's > >forget my history on fedsnet for now, I'm seriously and curiously > >interested in this particular issue. > > > > > >For long the LRA has been painted as a "non political visionary" > >rebellion, but the link above which in so many ways looks like a LRA rebel > >forum has a different story to tell. I am not a LRA rebel supporter, I'm in > >search for knowledge and the truth in remmedy to get a clear view of > >understanding the rebellion. Anarchism is their political philosophy and > >they will protect & fight for it no matter what it takes! For the 1st time > >I've found out that their cause is not the 10 commandments. > > > > > >Before we move so quickly onto solving the northern rebellion with > >federalism, let's check out how these anarchist northern federal states > >will function and be governed. > > > > > >Uganda Anarchists/LRA rebels said - "We believe in a system that has no > >leadership but delegates elected and appointed by the populace. Delegates > >that can be re-called at short notice when delegation is turned into power. > >A democracy that is built from the grassroot and managed by grassroot > >people. A system that is accountable to its people. We don't believe in > >national passports or national borders." > > > > > >Their message of "a democracy that is built from the grassroot and > >managed by the grassroot people" rings a bell of federalism. > > > > > >Their ideology of "a system that has no leadership but delegates > >elected and appointed by the populace. Delegates that can be re-called at > >short notice when delegation is turned into power" can work within > >federalism by simply forming a Northern Federal State Delegates > >Committee-like structure from the grassroot upwards. However, how will an > >anarchist region state respect the imperical superiority/leadership of the > >federal gov't of Uganda above it if it doesn't believe in "leadership"?? > > > > > >Their "We don't believe in national passports or national borders" is a > >much advanced ideology of -no leadership- because leadership is limited by > >it's geographical boundaries and they want no part of this limitation. Such > >disbelief in national passports or national borders is a violation of > >international, national and state laws and not compatible with federalism > >where state and national borders are clearly drawn. I now know why the LRA > >keeps its base in Sudan moving across the border back and forth - because > >it doesn't believe in national borders. > > > > > >I wrote all this because I needed some answers from our federal brain > >childs of Uganda. The LRA has and is proving to be resilient rebel group > >which is here to stay until it's demands are up into action. We are going > >to have a problem with this group even in the post-Museveni era and under a > >possible federalism. The LRA's relactancy and non existing support of > >federalism can now be realized why - because federalism is NOT anarchism! > >Bingo! There you go! > > > > > >The LRA's demands might look undemocratic since the populace did not > >ask for it, but their demands will HAVE to be put into action, like it or > >not if we are to save lives. Decisions will have to be made in accordance > >to the reality (LRA) of the situation. So, whatever kind of federalism > >Uganda will choose, the northern region's will by force have to be > >different from other states/regions. > > > > > >In the mean time, the federal brain childs of Uganda give me some > >answers, and shapely curve up a regional practicable model for the northern > >region now before it's too late. I hate to Bugandanize federalism but we > >need to put the Buganda federal talk aside [buganda will be easy to deal > >with than the north] and deal/focus on the northern anarchist federal > >model. > > > > > >I don't wanna hear the old talk of "they [northerns] will decide what > >type of federal-in-state arrangement will work for them" because this will > >be a complicated situation (no national border/passport respect and no > >recognition of the leadership of the Uganda State). The decision of the > >northern federalism will definately have to involve the Ugandan republic > >not just the people of northern region. > > > > > >And if the Uganda Federal Gov't hesitates to give up some of its powers > >to anarchism, I am afraid another LRA rebellion will be in the waiting > >ready to happen! They don't even believe in laws imposed by legal > >authority, they believe that ethics are a personal matter and should be > >based upon others and the wellbeing of society! That explains why they > >mutilate people without any remorse because in their thinking 'ethics are a > >personal matter' which depends on how individually someone interpretes it, > >and 'anarchism is what society needs for its wellbeing'. Guns can not > >defeat such people, we will have to fight their beliefs which are deep > >rooted. I don't even know how to fight their beliefs because they will kill > >any person tampering with their 'cause'. > > > > > >Uganda will HAVE to wake up from it's sleep and submit to the LRA > >rebel's demands. No wonder the gov't has failed to make peaceful ceasefire > >negotiations with the rebels because the gov't itself is "a hierachial > >economic authority 'leadership' inherently detrimental to the maximization > >of human potential" according to the LRA. Our gov't is power hungry, it can > >not give up such powers (federal or anarchist) to any region even if it is > >costing us an exstinction of groups of people. > > > > > >The LRA wants something way much more than federalism. I read some of > >Mr. Oryema Johnson's postings on fedsnet about "seccession" of the northern > >region from Uganda. Oryema had some very very very important observations > >and ideas which must not be ignored as non-nationalist. If the whole of > >Uganda and her gov't will not be able to accomodate and accept northern > >anarchism, there will be a NORTHERN SECCESSION by the force of you know > >what, the LRA gun. This is a bloody marriage with fruits of death, if one > >partner can not stand/live by the rules of the other, a sensible devorce is > >what is needed to stop the death fruits of the marriage. > > > > > >Federalists, correct me wherever I went wrong, but we need real > >solutions to the war in the north. Our disguise of "nationalism" is not > >even nationalism because any true nationalist would have solved this > >problem years ago and saved national lives. This so called nationalism of > >Uganda is about territory/land control and not its people. This makes sense > >why the people in the north refused Salim Saleh's plans of abandoning their > >land and start cultivating in concentration camps. The Uganda gov't does > >all this sh**t and expects the LRA rebels to give up any time soon?? > > > > > >Any federal solution to this anarchist situation in the north?? > > > > > > > > >Rehema M. > > > > > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 11/10/2003 > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 11/10/2003 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of 56k? 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